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Dec 4th 2012 5:03PM As a 30 year airline veteran, I find it troubling that the writers chose to interview a Flight Attendant who, at the age of 22, could barely have a year or 2 under his/her belt. Almost everything in this article is totally inaccurate, at least for the hard-working crews of domestic U. S. carriers. Almost everything this person says, especially about having bills and rent paid, about relationships and crew behavior is the EXACT OPPSITE of reality. Tittaling reading to be sure. But a profound diservice to the truth and to the men and women who maintain a professional demeanor while laboring thru grueling hours of dealing with the public and being afforded minimal time off.
Feb 5th 2011 10:02AM This particular epsiode is unlikely to happen on a U. S. carrier as it is illegal to leave the cockpit without ensuring that 2 people remain behind, one to fly and one to open the door.
But, if they fired every pilot that fell asleep in the cockpit (as has been suggested in this discussion), the industry would come to a grinding halt. The reality is, it happens all the time. Over the last 30 years, the airline industry has done a very effective job of making it perfectly legal to build a pilot's schedule so that he may very well get only 4 hours of genuine sleep. Whenever the FAA comes under any pressure to fix the problem, the industry lobbyists step right in the maintain the status quo.
May 28th 2010 8:28AM "We've got the money in the van" and "We've paid for the parking" Are two different things.
Besides, how do you pay for something that's illegal?
May 28th 2010 8:17AM Ray:
Good idea. But, here's a rough quote from Upton Sinclair...
"It is very difficult to make someone understand something when their livelihood depends on their NOT understanding it."
You can explain fatigue to an airline manager until you're blue in the face. It gets you nowhere. (Believe me, I've tried)
This is why we have an FAA. (At least that's the theory)
May 28th 2010 8:09AM Fatigue.
When is the FAA ever going to do anything about Fatigue??? In a race to run the cheapest operation, airlines are running their pilots ragged.
For the last 2 decades, the FAA has made promise after promise after promise to strengthen duty limits and rest requirements. But, every time they come close to actually doing something, the airlines rant and rave about cost and the FAA backs off.
After the Colgan accident, the FAA did it's latest public dog-and-pony show about fatigue. But, when push came to shove, the effort got tabled and the subject got changed to pilot professionalism in the cockpit.
Nothing wrong with ensuring cockpit discipline (other than the fact that the discipline that already exists makes it 1 one hundreth of a safety threat when compared to fatigue).
But, the FAA would prefer that you pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. "Tired pilots (there are thousands)? We'll get to that. But LOOK! There goes a bad pilot! (1 in a million) Pay attention to the bad pilot!"