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Top American Destinations To Avoid In 2013
Here's the thing, though: I'm a pretty open-minded traveler. I've had plenty of unpleasant run-ins, transportation failures and otherwise terrible experiences – it comes with the territory. But I'm also not one to throw an entire city into the negative category. Instead, I took the most complained about places and looked into why they have a stigma, and conversely, wrote about what might make the social media users change their minds. Maybe the bad taste in these travelers' mouths will never go away, but hopefully this will end up changing some perceptions.
Detroit, Michigan
Complaint: "just plain depressing"
The Point: Once one of America's most prosperous cities, today Detroit seems more like a post-industrial ruin. Corrupt city officials, economic decline and budget mismanagement have caused law and order to break down in the city. In October, the Detroit Police Officers union went so far as to warn visitors to enter the city "at their own risk," and ALT (Alternative Luxury Travel) travel agency called Detroit the "Most Dangerous U.S. City to Visit for Gay Travelers" because of its increase in crime and the shuttering of a high number of landmark gay bars.
The Counterpoint: If you're looking for trouble in Detroit, you can easily find it – but that doesn't mean it will find you. The city still has a thriving music, art and theater scene, drawing creatives from around the country and world to live and visit here. And if you like cars, you can visit museums dedicated to both Ford and Chrysler, take a tour of the former estates of auto barons, or check out one of the many automobile-related annual events. There is still a lot of hope for this city, and earlier this year Gadling even wrote about it as a sustainable city to watch.
Reno, Nevada
Complaint: "ZERO attempt at a culture"
The Point: Reno makes the list of cities to avoid because, as one Twitter user put it, "it felt like where old gamblers go to die." It bills itself as the second largest tourist town in Nevada, and can't seem to shake the runner-up epithet of a tame, rundown version of Las Vegas. Most people sell the city by pointing out how close it is to Tahoe, which isn't really a reason to stay in Reno at all.
The Counterpoint: If you don't like casinos – Reno's number one tourist attraction – it might seem you are in trouble. The truth is, this city has the same good eats, music, nightlife and boutiques you find in any other major metropolitan areas – you just have to search a little harder to find the gems. The Nevada Museum of Art also has a surprisingly prestigious collection and is well worth a visit (even if it's just to kill some time during your layover to another destination). Yes, the pace of life is slower here than other major metropolitan areas, but many visitors might find that a redeeming quality instead of a negative one.
Daytona Beach, Florida
Complaint: "dodging trucks that were allowed to drive on the beach"
The Point: When you imagine a day along the shore, you probably don't conjure images of laying your beach towel next to cars and trucks. On parts of Daytona Beach, automobiles are allowed to park in the sand during select hours of the day, making the beach vibe turn from tropical to tailgating party.
The Counterpoint: Here's the thing: Daytona Beach is the home of NASCAR, so if you're visiting for a racing event, you probably don't mind a few cars on the beach. In fact, you might even enjoy the novelty of it. If you're not into it, that's OK too: there are plenty of other stretches of sand in for you to discover.
Salt Lake City, Utah
Complaint: "boring and flat"
The Point: Salt Lake City doesn't top many travel bucket lists, mostly because the local culture isn't too supportive of those who like to imbibe. Just a few years ago, the capital of Utah lifted a prohibition that limited the number of bars on each city block to two, but the city can't seem to escape the conservative stigma.
The Counterpoint: Fostered in part by the Sundance Film Festival, Salt Lake City has a growing film and art scene. Summer visitors can watch live bands outdoors during the annual Twilight Concert Series, and those who come in winter should know that the city is known for its close proximity to the slopes – 14 ski resorts are within an hour of Salt Lake City. Year round, the city has many small businesses worth seeking out, which makes it a great destination for those looking to skip chain restaurants and big box stores. And if your complaint is that the city is flat, take a trip to the nearby Bonneville Salt Flats, and you might be surprised to find out how beautiful a flat landscape can be.
Los Angeles, California
Complaint: "smoggy and snooty"
The Point: Los Angeles is notorious for its smog, a haze produced by millions of vehicles operating in a low basin surrounded by mountains. It's also an expensive place to visit, and the people who live there have a reputation as struggling actors, models and rock stars who will do anything to get ahead.
The Counterpoint: Multiple California government agencies have been working to reduce smog. It's still a major problem, but it's not a reason to avoid the city's numerous landmarks and other attractions. Besides, the nearly 4 million people who live there don't seem to be too turned off by it. And that sheer number of people discredits the "snooty" point. Choose your company wisely and you can avoid self-important people with stars in their eyes – or at least learn to roll your own eyes and walk away.
Do you echo these social media users' sentiments, or can you get behind one of the cities above? Similarly, if you had a bad experience in a U.S. city and think it should be on the list, let Gadling readers know in the comments below.
Editor's note: In an earlier version of this article, the population of Los Angeles was incorrectly identified. The article has been updated to accurately reflect the current population of the city.
[Photo credit: Flickr user Ben Amstutz]
Complaint: "just plain depressing"
The Point: Once one of America's most prosperous cities, today Detroit seems more like a post-industrial ruin. Corrupt city officials, economic decline and budget mismanagement have caused law and order to break down in the city. In October, the Detroit Police Officers union went so far as to warn visitors to enter the city "at their own risk," and ALT (Alternative Luxury Travel) travel agency called Detroit the "Most Dangerous U.S. City to Visit for Gay Travelers" because of its increase in crime and the shuttering of a high number of landmark gay bars.
The Counterpoint: If you're looking for trouble in Detroit, you can easily find it – but that doesn't mean it will find you. The city still has a thriving music, art and theater scene, drawing creatives from around the country and world to live and visit here. And if you like cars, you can visit museums dedicated to both Ford and Chrysler, take a tour of the former estates of auto barons, or check out one of the many automobile-related annual events. There is still a lot of hope for this city, and earlier this year Gadling even wrote about it as a sustainable city to watch.
Reno, Nevada
Complaint: "ZERO attempt at a culture"
The Point: Reno makes the list of cities to avoid because, as one Twitter user put it, "it felt like where old gamblers go to die." It bills itself as the second largest tourist town in Nevada, and can't seem to shake the runner-up epithet of a tame, rundown version of Las Vegas. Most people sell the city by pointing out how close it is to Tahoe, which isn't really a reason to stay in Reno at all.
The Counterpoint: If you don't like casinos – Reno's number one tourist attraction – it might seem you are in trouble. The truth is, this city has the same good eats, music, nightlife and boutiques you find in any other major metropolitan areas – you just have to search a little harder to find the gems. The Nevada Museum of Art also has a surprisingly prestigious collection and is well worth a visit (even if it's just to kill some time during your layover to another destination). Yes, the pace of life is slower here than other major metropolitan areas, but many visitors might find that a redeeming quality instead of a negative one.
Daytona Beach, Florida
Complaint: "dodging trucks that were allowed to drive on the beach"
The Point: When you imagine a day along the shore, you probably don't conjure images of laying your beach towel next to cars and trucks. On parts of Daytona Beach, automobiles are allowed to park in the sand during select hours of the day, making the beach vibe turn from tropical to tailgating party.
The Counterpoint: Here's the thing: Daytona Beach is the home of NASCAR, so if you're visiting for a racing event, you probably don't mind a few cars on the beach. In fact, you might even enjoy the novelty of it. If you're not into it, that's OK too: there are plenty of other stretches of sand in for you to discover.
Salt Lake City, Utah
Complaint: "boring and flat"
The Point: Salt Lake City doesn't top many travel bucket lists, mostly because the local culture isn't too supportive of those who like to imbibe. Just a few years ago, the capital of Utah lifted a prohibition that limited the number of bars on each city block to two, but the city can't seem to escape the conservative stigma.
The Counterpoint: Fostered in part by the Sundance Film Festival, Salt Lake City has a growing film and art scene. Summer visitors can watch live bands outdoors during the annual Twilight Concert Series, and those who come in winter should know that the city is known for its close proximity to the slopes – 14 ski resorts are within an hour of Salt Lake City. Year round, the city has many small businesses worth seeking out, which makes it a great destination for those looking to skip chain restaurants and big box stores. And if your complaint is that the city is flat, take a trip to the nearby Bonneville Salt Flats, and you might be surprised to find out how beautiful a flat landscape can be.
Los Angeles, California
Complaint: "smoggy and snooty"
The Point: Los Angeles is notorious for its smog, a haze produced by millions of vehicles operating in a low basin surrounded by mountains. It's also an expensive place to visit, and the people who live there have a reputation as struggling actors, models and rock stars who will do anything to get ahead.
The Counterpoint: Multiple California government agencies have been working to reduce smog. It's still a major problem, but it's not a reason to avoid the city's numerous landmarks and other attractions. Besides, the nearly 4 million people who live there don't seem to be too turned off by it. And that sheer number of people discredits the "snooty" point. Choose your company wisely and you can avoid self-important people with stars in their eyes – or at least learn to roll your own eyes and walk away.
Do you echo these social media users' sentiments, or can you get behind one of the cities above? Similarly, if you had a bad experience in a U.S. city and think it should be on the list, let Gadling readers know in the comments below.
Editor's note: In an earlier version of this article, the population of Los Angeles was incorrectly identified. The article has been updated to accurately reflect the current population of the city.
[Photo credit: Flickr user Ben Amstutz]
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Reader Comments (Page 8 of 11)
Don Loundy Jan 8th 2013 8:59PM
All of the naysayers about LA are right: it's horrible here. You will be mugged, strangle on the air, be insulted by the weirdos, see odd relations between the sexes. Not to mention the way the races mix. Nothing but arch-libs here. They don't call it the left coast for nothing. Don't come to LA whatever you do.
Patrick Rafferty Jan 8th 2013 9:09PM
I moved from a small town in West Texas to LA 3 years ago and have NEVER experienced any snooty people. In fact, most of the people I've met have been very good at making me feel welcomed.
And as far as the alleged smog, I have zero complaints. It's no worse than any other big city.
Jay Jan 8th 2013 10:19PM
Soooo, Libby, You must be a fat girl huh? I've lived in the daytona bch. area all my life, met tourists from all over the world, walked between millions of cars & trucks getting to & from the water, But I don't ever recall having to dodge anything , pedestrians have the right of way(thats law) And having your car or truck within sprinting distance,is a true asset, with your valuables safely locked up. no carrying stuff hundreds of yards, & leave the car where you can't see it. No contest lady Much more relaxed than that. You should visit again, I think maybe you missed something . Oh-- And-- Libby? Tommorow--at my house, the sun will be shining,the breeze will be blowing the temps will be in the low 80s, the waves will be breaking off the getties,the gulls will be hovering over,the wine will be chilled,the beer will be ice cold,and the beach at daytona will be alive.
cindy Jan 9th 2013 2:36AM
I tend to agree about all of these. Carson City is similar to Reno and not a good place to be if you're down and out, especially down. I think Utah is well worth seeing but then alcohol is not a big priority with me when i'm visiting a place. I can't imagine putting that so far first that you wouldn't appreciate all there is to see. That's awful about Daytona beach and I probably wouldn't enjoy a swim there.
jak Jan 8th 2013 9:41PM
I totally agree with everything you said about each of the Forget 'Em cities...wastelands, bottom of the American cultural barrel...if they aren't poverty stricken and hopeless to rise, they're superficially materialistic ugly miles of strip malls, the inmates driven solely by the car they drive, the label they wear, or the Kardashian they worship. Pathetic examples of America 2013.
Handsomish Jan 8th 2013 9:47PM
It's not Angeleno's that are watching the Kardasians. Don't blame us for them, and the other Honey Boo Boo's of the world.
Handsomish Jan 8th 2013 9:42PM
Having lived in Los Angeles most of the last 30 years, I've experienced it's highs and lows. The smog claims are so distorted. Basically memories of the 70's. I've encountered worse air all over the country at times. Sure there are phonies here, as there are everywhere, but unfortunately, we seem to attract those that once resided next door to wherever you live. But there are a lot of genuine people here, and probably the most diverse population in the nation. There are many cultural opportunities available here, from cuisine to art. We have some wonderful museums, and our outdoor experiences are varied, and close. You can snow ski in the morning, and surf at night. As well as excellent mountain biking/hiking available within 15 minutes from any point in the city/county. Other than the Santa Monica Mountains, we lack a National Park System presence.
As to Salt Lake City, I don't believe we should have to include the number of establishments that you can imbibe alcohol, to make it a fun city. There isn't enough alcohol in the state of Utah to make SLC fun. All I ever get there is treated like an outsider. Maybe I don't have that secret Mormon appearence that earns me a friendly greeting. I've tried multiple times, and have only had miserable experiences there. If you want to visit the great National Parks, and other sites in Utah, I highly recommend going up to Ogden. That is an extremely friendly city, with great food, and a short distance to SLC if you really feel you need to visit. And going out to Bonneville Salt Flats is a must.
Reno isn't very exciting anymore. As you drive around you see many once notable casinos boarded up. It's close to becoming a ghost town. The notable exceptions are some good basque food, and the Harrahs Automotive Museum.
Detroit shouldn't be at the top of anyones list, but I have had good times there, and there are certainly many good museums, and points of historical interest.
If I were to pick a city to avoid in Florida, it's pretty much a pick-em. Unless you have a large wallet and kids, avoid Orlando. And again the large wallet is pretty much necessary for Miami as well. Culturally Daytona Beach only has Nascar, and the beach. But is a reasonable cost vacation to the seaside at times, but not much else. Especially for good food. It's all chains, and bland local food. At least you can get some good Cuban food in Miami.
Jennifer Pierce Jan 8th 2013 9:52PM
I was born and raised in Detroit and I definitely feel the pain of what has happened to my hometown. I do however get back every year and I can tell you that Downtown Detroit is alive and kickin'.
Greektown is amazing and I was shocked and amazed at how crowded the streets were; and forget about the food; it's amazing. Then there's always a little gambling at any one of 3 casinos that are bustling at all hours. If that's not good enough, you can always go across the bridge to Windsor and go to Ceasars. And I totally forgot about Hamtamck which is the latest trendy hotspot. Oh, and don't forget all the great places along Lake St. Clair.
Detroit is not dead; it's been on life support but it is making a miraculous recovery because the people of Detroit will not give up on it. You can't keep a city like Detroit down forever.
Greta Jan 8th 2013 9:59PM
Salt Lake City is a great place to visit. Stay downtown at the Grand America. Do some shopping at the Gateway or the other super cool new outdoor mall. Eat at Lamb's Grille. I go once a year and love it. I always have fun and the people are pleasant.
Jim Jan 8th 2013 10:15PM
Why avoid Los Angeles? It is one of the best cities in the US to visit. Absolutely fantastic weather, with an unlimited number of things to see and do.
Smoggy and snooty? Expensive to visit? Has the writer ever been to NYC?
Smoggy, snooty, arrogance beyond imagination, filthy, congested and VERY expensive to stay anywhere decent.
Seven Stillmore Jan 8th 2013 11:35PM
these lists are always generated in NYC, and always include LA. Its called jealousy. ILOVELA.
donald Jan 8th 2013 10:15PM
I would add Disney, Anywhere. What a trap.
Seven Stillmore Jan 8th 2013 10:44PM
LA will make the top 5 list of anything, always. Its the place everyone loves to hate. As a fifth generation Angelino, I can always tell when someone is hating on my town, and never been here, or we gobbled you up and spit you out. Right Naomi? This is where the pebble hits the pond. How on earth do you have a list that includes, SLC, Reno, Detroit, and Daytona Beach? You could fit every one of those towns in the Valley without touching Burbank.
JamesBryson Culp Jan 8th 2013 11:44PM
Chicago was a good place in the 1940s and until about 1956. Since then, not so good. Winds still blow the same tho. Cold windy city. Some graces are the museums. Trajedy was destroying the Meigs Airfield, where my father flew in and landed the General's plane a twin Beech to come see me born at Chicago Cook County Lying In Hospital of Univ of Chicago during WWII 1943. .
sheenaschmidt Jan 9th 2013 12:02AM
Daytona Beach just got back from their lived their for nine years ,it has everything from new board walk, race car driving, bike week, gambling,largest flea market, grey hound dog track, deep sea fishing, great food, my problem was to many things to do, and which ones to do first,hotels range in price, a family can live on the beach in a nice suit for 500 dollars a week,and as for the cars on the beach they have lines where they must drive and park, they make it sound like they are driving over you, report is so wrong
Marbux Jan 9th 2013 1:11AM
I'm from So California. I grew up, did my schoolin' there and worked if the medical field until I moved in '97. I've only been back twice, the latest time was a year ago.
Downside: The traffic is horrendous (gasoline was expensive) as is the smog and it's crowded. It's also expensive (tickets to the Queen Mary and the Long Beach Aquarium were outrageously high so, we skipped them) and many of the people are rude. Even DIsneyland seemed to be less "happy".
The smog is often so bad you can't see the mountains that make it a basin nor see Santa Catalina Island that is only 26 miles from shore. It no longer seemed like home and I doubt very much I will return anytime soon.
Upside: Many good places to eat (I do miss the food). There are a lot of things to do, if you have the money. You can go to the ocean, the mountains and the desert all in one day. The beaches, at least Newport Beach was clean. We even saw seals off of the pier. That was cool.
If you go...plan, plan, plan. Consider driving time, expenses and crowds.
Donna Jan 9th 2013 1:06AM
I disagree about LA being snooty. Maybe I just didn't go to the snooty areas but I found people to be quite friendly, surprisingly so. Near the beaches people spoke to me as I walked down the streets as though they had known me for years. Everywhere I remember going people were very friendly. I even went out to a club one night and a young man in a wheel chair asked me to dance after eyeing me on the dance floor. Now if he felt comfortable enough to ask me to dance and he was from LA, I feel he was example of the good naturedness of most people who reside there.
Angelophile Jan 9th 2013 1:01AM
Libby,on behalf of Los Angeles,we would love it if you never came back.
You had a bad time here because you had to come with you. Bummer.
Donna Jan 9th 2013 1:19AM
I agree, you get what you give. If you have a bad attitude to start with, people will feel your spirit and be turned off to you too. I always smile at strangers to let them know without a word spoken that I appreciate just being there and having the opportunity to enjoy their city or their home. It's just like being a guest in some ones home.
Joe Jan 9th 2013 1:33AM
Detroit? Really? That city has no one to blame but themselves. You let a bunch of unions suck the life out of your once great city. They wouldn't give up their entitlements and thus killed the goose that laid the golden egg. It's a microcosm of the United States.