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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
7-25-2011 @ 11:52AM
taaruoort said...
To explain better:
the origins - or "tradition" - of portrait, are in the pre-artistic representation of anthropogenic forms. Those representations of idols, gods or dead, was often with few humans elements; sometimes a trace of eyes, of mouth, of nose, or sometimes without those details and only a kind of oval for head. The rest of body was, according cultures, a simply parallelepiped, more or few lenght, or totally without it, and only with neck. For exemple; the Xoana in the celtic culture or in the apulian pre-roman culture. For celtic Xoana is, in most cases, impossible to establish a short arc of time for its realization; cause its typology are persisted for several centuries. In the early Rome, before every suspicion of nationalism (don't worry), it was the cult of ancestors, that was represented with a wax kind of portrait, very involuted in their forms, only with head (and neck), that begun to improve during the time. And this is the origin of roman portrait. So says like inside origins of roman portraits was present the developmental germ of personal portraits of followings centuries. Until become (I jump a lot of stages) to our... oh, sorry, to "your" portraits. In a lot of ancients cultures, included Egipt, the personal portraits was not a tipical expression of status; also Pharaoh was represented more with ideals tracts than realist. And also greeks don't had a tradition of personal portrait. The realism in the roman personal portrait was, instead, inborn in its original ideology. This is not "nationalism", sorry, but history. It most to study it without turbids and idiots and barbaric prejudices.
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7-25-2011 @ 12:02PM
Sean McLachlan said...
Well, at least you tried to make a coherent argument this time. Tried, but failed, and descended into more insults and name calling.
Greeks never made realistic depictions of the human face? Perhaps you should look that up. And you didn't address any of my original points. Or cite any sources. Or give any concrete examples besides one from the Celtic world.
I'm not sure where you got it into your head that non-Italians have some sort of conspiracy theory to blot out the achievements of the Roman Empire, or that the term "Greco-Roman" was some sort of racist slur, but in the colorful realm of conspiracy theories I have to say that's a new one on me.
Since it has become quite obvious that I am not going to get an intellectual conversation from you, I will bow out of this thread, thus reducing your audience from one to zero. Feel free to continue babbling without me.