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Cockpit Chronicles: Airline de-icing
Not only does the frosty precipitation add weight to an aircraft, but it also disrupts the flow of air over the wings and tail and can cause an accident if the circumstances are just right. The FAA and NASA have gone through great lengths to teach pilots about the adverse effects that snow and ice can have on an airplane.But the most important lesson pilots learned from was from the infamous Air Florida 90 crash in Washington D.C. in 1982. But snow on the wings wasn't the only problem that aircraft had to deal with. Even more of a factor was the iced up engine probe that is used to display the amount of thrust the airplane was developing during takeoff. The result was that the 737 was producing much less power than the pilots thought, at a time when the snow and short runway made an accurate power setting vital.
Airline deicing has presented a problem long before the jet age arrived. During the twenties while flying passengers in Alaska, my grandfather not only had to make sure the wings were clear of snow and frost, but he had to preheat the engine oil, usually over a stove in the coldest conditions, before putting it back in the preheated motor that was warmed from below using a custom made stove with large blankets wrapped over the engine.
While flying to the Eskimo villages outside of Bethel, Alaska, as a new co-pilot I was tasked with using a push broom to get the snow and ice off the top of the wings of the Twin Otter. Usually it was a simple matter of brushing the cold snow from the wing while crawling across the slick aluminum with a push broom. But sometimes the ice was so thick that it was necessary to break it up as gently as possible with the side of handle. It was during one of these mornings, in the cold dark winter, that I thought to myself that Twin Otters were also flown in Hawaii and that I might want to look into that. I managed to capture some of those ice-cold days in a video from back then.
Gallery: Winter airline flying operations
Prior to landing a flying job, I worked for Era as a ramper on the night shift and one of the tasks I was trained to do was to de-ice aircraft in the morning. I learned two lessons from that experience. Firstly, that it was very important not to spray the glycol based de-ice fluid into the wind, and second, that this fluid tasted a lot like maple syrup.
How much does it cost and how long does it last?
The De-ice Process
I have a lot of sympathy today for the certified deicers that clean our airplanes. It's not an easy job.
Before every 'snow event' as our base in Boston calls these storms, crews are assigned and trucks are prepared for the day's worth of spraying. It's ultimately up to the pilots when and what type of de-icing fluid is to be used, but the deicers do a good job of planning ahead, especially at our base.
Everything is based on what's called a 'holdover time.' This is the amount of time the FAA says the Type I or Type IV fluid can prevent snow, ice-pellets or freezing rain from adhering to the wings.

Years ago, Type I fluid was really our only option. It's a de-icing fluid that is used to remove the snow and ice from the airplane. But it's holdover time was then and still is today rather limited; typically between ten and thirty minutes in duration. So by the time you're de-iced, if there is any delay departing, which invariably happens during a snow storm as the airport opens and closes runways for clearing, the holdover time is often met.
It is possible to takeoff with an expired holdover time, but it involves an inspection by a pilot from inside the cabin or certified de-icer from the outside within five minutes of departure. This might explain why you've seen a pilot come back to check on the wings on occasion before takeoff.
This inspection is very rare today, since we now have Type IV fluid, which is an anti-icing fluid. It's far more common now to use a two-step process using Type I to remove the snow and Type IV to ensure a long holdover time. Our charts show that Type IV fluid can resist snow for as much as an hour and a half.
While the wings must not have snow or ice adhering to the upper surfaces, the fuselage is usually cleared as well, since the added accumulation can add weight to the aircraft.
The whole process isn't cheap. Currently Type I fluid costs $3.29 a gallon and Type IV fluid runs a rather steep $5.79. Often these fluids are diluted with up to 50% of the solution made up of warm water, but it's not uncommon for an airline to spend over $5,000 on a single ice-coated airplane.Even though it's so expensive, the effectiveness of Type IV fluid is rather startling-it's not uncommon to fly for a few hours and still have an oily film sticking to the surface of the airplane after landing.
Occasionally, when the snow fall has slowed a bit, it's common for the airplane to be de-iced before it's even boarded, so you won't encounter the delays from the de-ice process. But the station has to make a determination that the snow won't be picking up in intensity anytime soon.
If the airplane is to be de-iced after pushing back from the gate with passengers on board, we close off any outside air from entering the cabin during the de-icing to prevent the fluid smell from entering the airplane. A few years back, an Alaska jet had a well publicized incident where de-icing fluid mist filled the airplane while it was getting de-iced. Closing the engine 'bleed air' and turning off the air-conditioning 'packs' reduces this smell significantly.
Finally, there's one other anti-icing fluid used to make flying safer and that's on the runway itself. Airports often add anti-ice fluid in the form of potassium acetate to a runway after plowing the snow in order to keep the braking action fair or better as reported by the airplanes landing there.
The next time you see a de-icer giving your airplane a glycol bath, give 'em a thumbs up. They could use any warm thoughts you might be able to send their way.
Cockpit Chronicles takes you along on some of Kent's trips as an international co-pilot on the Boeing 757 and 767 based in Boston. Have any questions for Kent? Check out Plane Answers or follow him on Twitter @veryjr.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Richard Feb 23rd 2011 9:26AM
Great article, Kent. Keep 'em coming.
David T Feb 23rd 2011 11:47AM
Great article! I was curious on the environmental impacts of deicing fluid. Is it toxic? How do airports handle excess fluid and that which comes off the aircraft? Thanks.
Kent Wien Feb 23rd 2011 11:59AM
Thanks David,
I was going to touch on that but ended up leaving it out, since it seems no de-ice fluid is perfect yet. The previous fluids were very toxic.
The new fluids claim to be non-toxic, but they do absorb oxygen in the water as they break down, creating 'dead zones' around airports that allow their runoff.
I can't help think that there just HAS to be a better way.
conor Feb 25th 2011 12:12PM
After we deiced aircraft is departed from the gate a vacuum truck sucks up the glycol on the ground, Also when the aircraft is deiced on the deiceing area or pad there are drains in the area and they drain directly to a catch resivoir where after the winter the glycol is pumped out and recycled.
Aaron Feb 24th 2011 3:53PM
Good article, but I was wondering are all of the de-iec trucks there open basket? I am aircraft maintenance in the USAF and am stationed in at a cold weather base and most of our trucks are newer enclosed basket truck.
mark Feb 25th 2011 11:40AM
Difference between private and government job , I bet you had warm coffee and donught too .
Albert Feb 25th 2011 2:18PM
Aaron, being your in the Air Force, I'm wondering if Air Force planes have built in de-icing units on the leading edge of the wings? I was a flight crew chief on P2V-5 and 7's in the early 60's and we spent six months in Iceland. P2V's had a "rubber boot" on the leading edge of the wing and when we incountered the slightest hint of ice forming all we had to do was push a button and the heated "boots" would keep the wings clear of ice buildup.
Julian Feb 24th 2011 4:23PM
Hi Kent, nice post!
I have a question, beside the engine anti-ice, doesnt the aircrafts have wing`s anti-ice? and how does it works? ive heard there are different kinds for example the pneumatic ones and warming ones, but is there any system that can spray anti-ice fluid over the wings?
Hope you understand, as im not very good in english.
Dave C. Feb 25th 2011 6:27AM
Enjoyed the article. As an A&P and working contract maintenance for years I have a fair share of deicing stories, it does have a sweet taste but maple syrup it's not. It does make one feel good when the people inside the aircraft wave and smile while you are out there freezing you butt off in a fog of glycol just doing your part to see they get where they are going safely. Thanks!
Donna Feb 25th 2011 8:09AM
Thanks for the shoutout to the ground crews forced to do this miserable job. My husband comes home cold and drenched in that nasty de-icing fluid, not a fun thing.
Al Feb 25th 2011 8:12AM
1) Older deicing fluid was Ethylene Glycol just like what is used in automotive colling systems. Much today is Propylene Glycol like used in food products.
2) It is heated
3) Most major airports have a set place to deice and recover the fluid.
4) Closed booms are a matter of cost.
5) It is not really a hazard for passengers but can cause chemical pneumonia for those spraying it all day who do not wear a respirator.
6) A good pilot would never totally trust his EPR reading (Air Florida) if he was not developing power and would advance the throttle as far as possible.
Al Feb 25th 2011 8:16AM
Some parts of the aircraft are deiced electrically and others with hot air from the engine compressor section (P3 Bleed Air) . The wings on most jets do not have deice systems. On the other hand the wings of many prop aircraft which spend more time at altitudes and speeds where icing is a problem have their own airfoil deicing. They all still need to be deiced on the ground.
Al Feb 25th 2011 8:20AM
Windshields have very fine wires in them. Some older aircraft used Alcohol that was released at the prop root to deice props and the base of the windshield.
Glyn Feb 28th 2011 11:12AM
Al are you even a pilot ? A stupid statement " a good pilot would never trust EPR for T/O " Prior to Air Florida that was the primary takeoff setting for most all airlines. Because of that acident it changed to primary N1 & N2 for T/O power settings. It has nothing to do with being good or bad. It depends on your trng. dept & SOP. Oh, by the way, don't forget American Airlines glycol truck had a mix of 85/15 water to glycol mix. There is more to this accident than you understand.
X - Air Florida Pilot
Glyn
Al Feb 25th 2011 9:23AM
GLYN you apparently didn't read the post very carefully. If your not developing T/O power you should never go into the ground with the P/L retarded because of the gauges. I am a Pilot and an A&P who has questioned alot about many incidents including Flt 90. This business needs to talk openly about it's experiences without thinking about your "feelings".
john Feb 25th 2011 11:40AM
Monday night quater back ?
Al Feb 25th 2011 9:34AM
GLYN
There is nothing wrong with Air Florida, or Valuejet (Airtran) or any other airline that has had an accident. This business is safe because procedures, materials and designs are changed with every event. The PIC will always have the final say and when that person allows themselves to be persuaded by company policy, politics, "gethomeitis" when it violates experience and sound judgement you have lost the chance to break the chain.
John Hardy Feb 25th 2011 10:08AM
Kent thanks for the information on the process of planes deicing. I do not fly to or from any part of the world where it is snowing; it is my opinion that planes should not fly in snowy conditions. I often wondered if it is possible for the wings of the plane to pick up ice while in flight.
John Hardy.
Bob Feb 25th 2011 10:04AM
Deiceing is important, So are experienced pilots, but they cost too much. Are Airlines scimping on the deiceing also? See Cogan air / Continential / Buffalo
Bob Feb 25th 2011 10:12AM
Chemical companies are very quick to put their products into profitable use. Then they are willing to spend million$ in legal defense of those profitable products, in spite of overwhelming evidence of adverse enviromental effects, or health damages.
Here we have another product, not in use long enough to determine long term effects.
Like PCB's, Asbestos, Thamaldihide, MMA & MMC, Dioxin, Vermiculite, etc.