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The slow demise of Amtrak customer service
It is a breathing, filthy mass of humanity in here. Groups of youth are sprawled across the floor, some on computers or smart phones, some eating fast food and others staring forlornly off in the distance, slowly rocking back and forth. A group of ten-odd Amish mill about in quiet companionship, belongings folded solemnly into hard luggage from a generation past. Feverishly, a woman swipes her credit card through the vending machine and stabs at the blue-illuminated lights. *Invalid* it says. *Invalid*.
This is the south Amtrak lounge at Chicago's Union Station.
Three hours into our delay with no updates from the staff, it strikes me that if this were the airline industry, then people would be up in arms. Bloggers would be furiously stroking their mustaches and writing angry letters to the executives deep inside of Amtrak ranks, while pundits in the community would be making ombudsman calls. Some sad politician would draft up the the Rail Sanity Act of 2011, only to get it shot down by a filibuster.
Instead, it seems like these Amtrak passengers have accepted their fate and that in a solemn, desperate way they're starting to bond together and power through it. Somewhere along the way, Americans have just come to accept the fact that Amtrak isn't reliable and that customer service here doesn't equal customer service at a hotel or on an airline or cruise ship.
What would be ideal is if Amtrak passengers took a step in the direction of airline passengers -- and vice versa. If airline passengers realized how damn hard the industry was trying and what the real effect of weather and logistics was then maybe they'd better appreciate the art of flying. On the flip side, if train customers were more vociferous about the atrocities that they experience then maybe quality could improve. To begin with, complaints and comments should be made on their comments page here.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Robert Feb 5th 2011 4:45PM
I live in Detroit, Mi. My family is in Flint Mi. It takes me about an hour to drive and see them. I moved very close to Detroit's Amtrack station so it caused me to look into how much it would be for a train home. It would cost $50 to leave at noon and get there at midnight. Or I could leave at 6 AM and stop halfway, get on their bus and get there by 3pm. This is for what takes me an hour to drive and hardly any money in gas. I can't even begin to understand it.
Will Feb 5th 2011 10:24PM
Amtrak doesn't offer direct service between Detroit and Flint. You have to change in Battle Creek to another train or bus after a layover. If I want to fly from Tampa to Orlando on Delta, I'll have to go through Atlanta taking five hours instead of 1.5 driving.
Ken R. Feb 5th 2011 8:10PM
See the following comments on trainorders.com.
They are not my comments.but I am a member of that website.
http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,2386193
Aglaia761 Feb 5th 2011 10:35PM
It's kind of insane that there's no corridor from detroit to chicago to St. Louis.
I thank God I live in the northeast corridor where you can take a train for about the same amount of time as it takes to drive.
Ken R. Feb 6th 2011 12:08AM
There WERE trains from Chicago to Detroit AND from St. Louis to Chicago and from St. Louis to Detroit (long before Amtrak).
From St. Louis to Detroit via the Wabash Railroad, there was the Wabash Cannonball and the Detroit Limited northbound for example.
From Chicago to St. Louis, on the Wabash, there was the Blue Bird and the Banner Blue for example.(same names both ways).
Same cities, on the Illinois Central, there was the Green Diamond and The Daylight.(same names both ways).
Finally, again same cities, on the Gulf, Mobile and Ohio, there was the Abraham Lincoln, Ann Rutledge and The Alton Limited.(same names both ways).
From Chicago to Detroit, via the Michigan Central (part of the New York Central System)there was the Twilight Limited, among other trains.
FYI.
Miles Feb 6th 2011 12:10AM
There was a discussion of this blog posting on a email distribution list. The following is a small sampling of some of the responding participants:
This is crap. I had to get into the third paragraph before I found anything having to do with Amtrak customer service. Up until that point, the writer could have been describing a typical airline terminal on a typical day. I guess the writer has never been on an airplane sitting on the tarmac for several hours with no food and no information. JJH
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Or, for that matter, in the terminal waiting out a delay. I had one many years ago where the airline provided very little information and most of it was wrong. They didn't provide food vouchers until the fourth hour of the delay, by which time most passengers had bought food and would not reimburse them.
My biggest complaint about the delay was not that it happened but that it became obvious once we finally got on the plane that airline employees at the terminal had INTENTIONALLY LIED to us. My 'nastygram' to the airline's customer service office stressed this; my complaint produced a $300 voucher for each of us, used that summer.
Tell passengers the truth. Even if something really terrible has happened, such as a crash, the delay will become much longer and it will be reported in the media anyway. In this case, terminal staff told us it was a weather delay. That looked suspicious to me because the airline had two flights coming in on the same route, an hour apart. Our aircraft was the first one; the second had already arrived on time.
When the plane finally arrived and we boarded, the FIRST thing the pilot did was apologize for the delay, due to a non-safety mechanical problem before its inbound flight, which they'd tried for several hours to fix, then gave up and made came anyway - and then said they'd try again to fix it, which caused more delay since the parts needed weren't available. The SECOND thing announced was that airline gate staff would distribute food vouchers...
If you don't know, tell them that you don't know. Do not make up stories or lie; you'll always be caught by at least some of them - here, everyone quickly knew that the terminal people had lied. Provide updates as information does become available, and if nothing happens let us know anyway every 15-20 minutes or so.
Gary R. Kazin
Rockaway, New Jersey
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My "favorite" example was the time I had to go to Newark to meet my wife,
who was flying in from Melbourne, FL. I called Continental before leaving,
and they said the flight was on time. I arrived at the terminal, and the board still said on time, so I went down to the gate (this was in the days when you could still do that). By that time, another flight had been posted for that gate, so I went and asked what was going on. It turned out that the flight had not yet left Melbourne! Why didn't matter. All I cared about was that I would now have to cool my heals
for at least three hours, and that it was all unnecessary. JJH
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And the writer thinks customer service is better with the airlines? He must never have had a flight canceled, then.
Flying back east DFW to BWI on the 12th and then back to DFW on the 16th. Got my fingers crossed that between the weather and American Airlines the trip comes off with any major delays. Would NOT look forward to sleeping in the terminal at BWI .....
Tom Hoffman
Pearisburg VA
KEN R. Feb 6th 2011 12:32AM
Gary Kazin and Tom Hoffman:
I recognize both of your names.
See my comments above yours for train names well before Amtrak.
You have anything to add other than the night time trains such as the Night Diamond for example on the railroads mentioned?
Thanks for any follow-up.
Jim Loomis Feb 6th 2011 10:18PM
I have traveled by Amtrak a lot -- and I mean multiple times on all of Amtrak's long-distance routes -- and your description is utter nonsense. Readers should not believe your distortions. There are exceptions, of course, but day in and day out, Amtrak people do an exceptional job, being helpful, courteous and cheerful even under occasional difficult circumstances. Given crowded highways and chaos in the airline industry, Amtrak passenger trains are the only civilized travel option left to us. To present such a false and negative picture is a terrible disservice to your readers.
Robert Feb 22nd 2011 1:29PM
Up until last Friday I would have agreed with you Jim. But after the experience described below, I have 'defriended' Amtrak. And no I have had no substantive explanation from Amtrak, just the 'dear customer' form.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Amtrak. We respond to online inquiries 7 days a week between the hours of 8 am and 11 pm (ET). You can expect a response to your inquiry within the next 24 hours.
Please do not reply to this message.
Sincerely,
Amtrak Customer Service
----- Robert Funicello Wrote -----
Subject: Travel Feedback
Nature of Comment: Complaint; Train, Station
Name: Robert Funicello
Email: robertfunicello@netscape.net
Address1: 206 Fenimore Road
Address2:
City: Mamaroneck
State: NY
Zip/Postal: 10543
Country: United States
Primary Phone: (914) 760-2114 - mobile
Mobile Phone:
Reservation Number:
Date of Incidence: 02/18/11
Time of Incidence: 02:15
Message:
My wife, Allyson Funicello, purchased a round trip ticket online from New Rochelle, NY to Philadelphia, PA, leaving New Rochelle today at 2:45 PM returning this Sunday. Price $178 which was paid by Chase debit card and the funds were deducted from our bank account. When she arrived at the New Rochelle train station and attempted to use her paper transaction record to obtain a ticket from the Amtrak ticket machine the machine was not operating. Several other passengers experienced the same problem. My wife and the other passengers were all told by someone at the station acting in an official capacity that 'there was no problem' they should simply board the train and show the paper transaction record to the Conductor. All the passengers did just that. But, on the train they were told quite officiously they did not have tickets and could not sit in seats but had to stand (for over 1/2 hour)in line. My wife and others were repeatedly was accused by a very rude Amtrak employee of attempting to ride for free-which of course is tantamount to 'theft of service' and if true would be a criminal act. She was also told that because she did not have a ticket when she boarded in New Rochelle her RETURN ticket was also cancelled and she was out $178. She was of course outraged by such nonsensical and ridiculous double talk. She was further rudely and offensively harassed by Amtrak employees when she tried to use her cell phone to call Amtrak customer service, because she had sat down originally in the "Quiet Car". She was ejected from that car and was threatened when she tried to return to get her luggage. When the train arrived in Philadelphia she was told she could not get off because the ticket matter had not been resolved. She virtually was being kidnapped by Amtrak due to its utter incompetence. She basically told the intolerably rude and offensive Amtrak employee that had been her lead harasser for the entire trip that she was getting off in Philly and then told that employee where she could get off. After more line standing at the Philadelphia Station Amtrak ticket window or office her return trip ticket was verified/issued and she was able to escape the bumbling and intolerably rude and offensive handling she had suffered at the hands of Amtrak. My wife is a NYC school teacher who took this trip to relax and spend time with a long time friend, a female airline pilot. She was looking forward to a quiet train ride. You destroyed that plan. What she got instead was the train trip from Hell. As has been said before but certainly never more aptly: "This is no way to run a railroad." I work in the transportation field and I normally ride Amtrak 2 or 3 times a year to D.C.I used to be a friend of the railroad. I'm not your friend anymore. This sort of treatment of passengers boarders on criminal. You appear to be trying to match the airlines in passenger abuse and you are succeeding at that. I am going to make a point of publishing this story as broadly as I possibly can as a warning to other unwary travelers: "Beware Amtrak Ahead"
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Andrew McFarland Feb 9th 2011 4:24PM
Europe's Amtrak, Eurostar, has learned a thing or two about customer service. The US carriers (whether rail or air) would do well to follow their lead. Eurostar Earns a Second Chance http://bit.ly/fGP11b
PBS Mar 1st 2011 12:51PM
To Robert - I once emailed Amtrak a question and about 2 weeks after receiving their formletter email, I received a real email with detailed information answering the question I had asked. I expect you will hear back from Amtrak regarding the horrible treatment your wife received. Good luck with that.
We are Amtak fans. While it is not perfect, we feel it is one of the better ways to travel. The Northeast Regional (NYC-DC) is a blessing for us as twice a month we have meetings in the DC area. We can close our eyes for the predawn commute and grab a bite to eat on our way home from the cafe car. Occasionally, we run into delays but not on a regular basis. We have never had a problem with any Amtrak employee.
We have taken the Amtrak Auto Train (DC area to Florida) eight times with the ninth scheduled for later this year. Each year the crew has been wonderful.
This author failed to mention where his train was coming from. The article is dated 2/5/11. I believe there was snow in the Chicago area at that time. He writes "these Amtrak passengers have accepted their fate and that in a solemn, desperate way they're starting to bond together and power through it." You would rather the screaming at the airport? And the airport is better at relaying information? Really?
All travelers should travel with some food and water because you never know what can happen, regardless of how you are traveling. Perhaps, the author should seek a better equiped station, or the airport for his next trip. Or enjoy the bonding that train travel offers.
craig w Mar 6th 2011 9:13PM
I agree that as a form of transportation Amtrak is certainly a cheaper and more Eco friendly. But after waiting over 2 and a half hours at Penn station on a delay then being herded in the cars like cattle, it struck me odd that not once did they ever say sorry and became quite defensive when I broached the fact that I would be getting to my destination over 3 hours late.
Harvey Pord May 3rd 2011 7:35AM
Is there an Amtrak service from West palm Beach Fl. to Salisbury, N.C. or close to either Charlotte or Kannapolis N.C.?
Is there an Amtrak Service to Salisbury, N.C. or close to Charlotte or Kannapolis, N.C.