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Plane Answers: Can passengers survive an explosive depressurization?
Welcome to Gadling's feature, Plane Answers, where our resident airline pilot, Kent Wien, answers your questions about everything from takeoff to touchdown and beyond. Have a question of your own? Ask away!Josh asks:
We've all heard the standard spiel about oxygen masks and flotation devices. Likewise, we've all seen the cartoonish drawings of proper positioning of one's body in the event of an emergency (the "brace for impact" pose), etc... Two things I've heard people say are that:
a) the air temperature outside the cabin at most cruising altitudes on jet engine planes is sufficient to instantly freeze all bodies on board solid within literally seconds;
b) the change in air pressure is likely to be so disruptive to one's ear drum, putting on oxygen masks and taking the fetal position is difficult to impossible due to disorientation.
As to the first one, I've flown many a Delta flight where on screen displays indicate the temperature outside the cabin to be extremely low (far far below zero). Likewise, I recall reading an article about a jet crash in Greece (I think) where the plane was supposedly depressurized in flight and crashed into a mountain. The report indicated that rescue workers arrived in a relatively short time, but everybody on board was in fact frozen solid. The report indicated this happened in the air, and w/in seconds of depressurization, not on the ground. So there seems to be some credence to this one.
As for the second one, about air pressure and disorientation, I'm of the understanding that though the need arises very rarely, passengers have been able to take action to put on oxygen masks when necessary. Of course, I don't know how many times (if ever) that need has arisen when at any significant altitude.
So are these frequent flyer myths, exaggerations, based in some fact or accurate descriptions of the reality of jet travel?
The most common cause of depressurization on an airplane is from the loss of both of the air conditioning and pressurization "packs." There are two of these units that pressurize the cabin on all airliners and one of them is allowed to be inoperative, although it's not a common occurrence. Should the airplane lose the remaining pack, the cabin altitude, which normally allows for a comfortable 6,000 feet when the airplane is flying above FL 300 (30,000 feet), will slowly climb to the same altitude the airplane is flying.
So it's imperative that the pilots descend below 14,000 feet, the altitude that the masks will deploy, as soon as possible and to level off at 10,000 feet or lower.
This situation recently happened to my brother. He was able to descend to a lower altitude and the cabin altitude never exceeded 10,000 feet, so no passenger masks dropped from the ceiling.
In the case of an explosive depressurization, like that of Aloha flight 243, these masks will be extremely important. Those passengers as well as the people aboard a United 747 that lost a cargo door, were able to don the masks and remain warm enough to survive until the airplane reached a lower altitude. Both those cases were near Hawaii, however. So it could be a rather cold descent anywhere else. But the initial explosive depressurization didn't result in so much disorientation that they couldn't put their masks on.

And you're right, it's common to see minus 40 to minus 60 degrees Fahrenheit (-40 to -50 Celsius) when at altitude. At temperatures of minus 40 (C or F), skin freezes almost instantly, although the temperature warms quickly as you descend.
Finally, the Greek Helios 737 flight that you mention was never pressurized after takeoff, because of a mistake that was especially tragic. The pilots inadvertently departed without noticing the pressurization controller was in the manual position. They missed the ear-popping cues, the temperature cues, the warning lights on the overhead, and they misdiagnosed a cabin altitude warning horn for the horn that notifies pilots that the airplane is unsafe for takeoff because of incorrectly configured flaps, trim or speedbrakes. Interestingly, the sound of the horn is identical in both situations.
On a side-note, I've talked to the Boeing engineers who worked on an early version of a 'text message' system called CPDLC that air traffic controllers can use to provide instructions to pilots. I asked these engineers what sound they would be choosing to alert the pilots of an incoming message.
As I suspected, they explained that they would be using the same sound that flight attendants use to call the pilots. And that chime is used for FMC wind and route uplink notifications among other things. They claimed that studies have shown that people have difficulty differentiating between more than five types of sounds.
The Helios pilots failed to understand this warning horn and subsequently failed to don their masks, resulting in the masks dropping in the back of the airplane while the pilots were trying to simply silence the warning horn.
Oxygen is vital for a pilot to be able to troubleshoot an abnormal situation as this amazing recording between a cargo flight that lost pressurization and air traffic control demonstrates. Note the altitude warning horn in the background of this ATC tape with the flight:
On a similar, but far less morbid topic, Steve asks:
What is the average temperature inside commercial airliners? I was told 82 degrees F by a pilot who was seated next to me in first class. This is to put everyone to sleep. At 35,000 ft. the temperature outside is -60 F, correct?
Yes, it's often nearly that cold, as I mentioned above. According to our indications on the Boeing, we shoot for around 70 to 72 degrees. Unfortunately, it's very difficult for that indicator to be perfectly calibrated. And when the flight is nearly full, pumping 70 degree air into the cabin can be too warm. Fewer passengers on board means we need to increase the selected temperature.
But by far the biggest driver of the temperature is the flight attendant. Typically they like it a bit cooler while they're working hard to get a meal service accomplished, and afterwards, when they're not as active, they'll need it to be warmer. So on your next flight, see if the first part of the flight, during the meal service, is cooler than the latter part.
If it were up to the pilots, the controls for the cabin temperature would be in the back, with the flight attendants. The 777 has some control over the temperature provided to the flight attendants, resulting in far fewer calls to the pilots asking for warmer or cooler temperatures.
And contrary to the belief by some cynics out there, we're definitely NOT keeping the cabin cooler to sell more blankets.
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Reader Comments (Page 5 of 5)
SkyGirl Apr 18th 2010 3:39AM
Sensationalist news... decompression happens more often than the public is aware and most often, the flight lands safely. The ones like Aloha, Air France, Air Japan, and the one in Europe in the 70's are freak occurrences to be so severe that flight attendants flop out or seats drop out of the bottom of the plane. The media enjoy scaring people. ~~ Former flight attendant, decompression survivor. Geez.
SkyGirl Apr 18th 2010 3:41AM
(Survivor more than once...)
DebinSoCal Apr 18th 2010 3:56AM
Pretty much, in a situation like that.....put your head between your legs and kiss your fanny goodbye.
Charley Apr 18th 2010 2:26PM
It is just amazing that these nimrods that know everything about aviation are experts about airplanes. The truth is the only thing they know about aviation is what they see on the silver screen and by some miracle they know everything there is to know. I guess this is the same bunch of clowns where we get politicians, when they get in office, they become experts on everything.
Retired American Airlines Captain, with over 40 years experience in aviation in the civilian aviation business. I am not ex-military aviation, which is a different ball game all together.
Tom Apr 18th 2010 4:01AM
I am not understanding why people are arguing about the freezing issue, someone is always going to say the exact opposite of everyone else. All we need now is someone to say they witnessed someone freeze solid
km Apr 18th 2010 4:25AM
Ok, being in the medical field I truly believe the oxygen mask is a bunch of crap! If the bag does not inflate, which is what they tell you, then there is not enough flow of oxygen to flush out the carbon dioxide your lungs are expelling every time you exhale. The carbon dioxide will build up it the mask and you will rebreathe it, causing quite a calming/suffocating effect! Not to mention, are there really huge H cylinders of O2 in the belly of the plane? I think not since they are highly explosive/flammable. Every time I hear the mask spiel while flying I laugh to myself knowing the flight attendants themselves have no idea how the respiratory/ventilatory system functions. If the masks are of any help, they would ward off a bit of panic due to the drowsiness caused by the excess CO2!
zip Apr 18th 2010 4:45AM
Peoples bodies found in wheel wells when a plane lands after a transatlantic flight.I've heard this several times.Are some people that ignorant ?Yes they are .We see them every day in stores,driving automobiles and on the streets .If we we are to put up signs everwhere there is danger there wouldn't be space to breath .Common sense is not so common.
H Smith Apr 18th 2010 7:20AM
This was a poorly written article.
Boca Apr 18th 2010 8:34AM
Stupid answers. If you are going to answer scientific questions give scientific answers. Don't answer with urban legends and anecdotes.
Tholzel Apr 18th 2010 10:05AM
Exhale all the air in your lungs--which is what would happen involuntarily in explosive decompression. Now, do you pass out instantly? No?
Well neither will you in an airplane. The next trick is to breath rapidly and deeply, as hard as you can, until the oxygen masks drop down. There is oxygen in ther air at 30-40,000-ft, just not a lot of it. And the more air volume you can draw through your lungs, the more oxygen you will absorb--although not enough to keep you conscious after a some minutes--which will vary a lot depending on your physiology. Say 3 to 6 minutes.
StraightTailDriver Apr 18th 2010 2:46PM
Once again, we see a simple thing like an alert chime having a disastrous outcome!
Amazing that aircraft manufactures cannot create alerts of varying degrees based on the severity of the issue at hand.
Maybe in the future there will just be spoken alerts? (i.e.- "Pressurization" or "Speed Brakes", etc.)
B1rdfixer Apr 18th 2010 6:29PM
When I went through high altitude training and we were exposed to an explosive decompression we experienced an immedeate "white out". None of the previous enteries mentioned this happening. Was this unique to my experience or have others seen the same?
Sidney Curry Apr 18th 2010 9:30PM
I'm a retired Air Traffic controller. I was working a Continental jet one day and the aircraft was at 35,000 feet. The pilot received a normal clearance to 14,000. The pilot responded with "we have explosive decompression and need lower." That took about one minute to go 24,000 feet. There were no injuries. There are too many myths about flying. IT IS VERY SAFE.
brett Apr 19th 2010 2:27AM
I saw another explanation for a plane that went down. I think it was the same one that this article mentioned included frozen bodies. The problem with the flight was that the crew had put the pressurization on 'manual.' An alarm sounded during take-off, but the crew mis-diagnosed it as something to do with take-off and turned off the alarm. The cabin and cockpit were never pressurized. By the time the crew started to realize that something was wrong, they were too groggy to think straight (or put on their oxygen masks). Everyone, including the crew, passed-out. Eventually the plane crashed. The article did not say how long the plane stayed up, but if the crew had engaged the autopilot, I imagine it could have been up for hours - with no pressurization, oxygen, or heat.
Tragic, but not an example of explosive depressurization, and not an example of freezing instantly.
Robert B. Apr 19th 2010 7:44AM
Please please please just learn some basic science. Bodies don't flash freeze unless Clarence Birdseye designed the plane.
The brain can only remember the meaning of a few different sounds. Hey Jim, down the chirping sound tells us that the wheels are still down or the flaps are still up.
The warning sounds basically give you an idea of what system is affected so you can check that system out. You can't remember that much info.
People die in unpressurized wheel wells and some people usually children have been known to survive.
Oxygen generators not oxygen tanks.
Ruth ,
Thanks for some hard science.
And as to the silver screen, I am surprised we haven't heard about snakes getting into the control systems and crashing planes yet.