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Plane Answers: So you want to be a pilot? Here's how.
Michael asks:I am an aspiring airline pilot and I was wondering what were the steps you took to get hired with the airlines. So far I am 15 and starting my flight training with the Civil Air Patrol.
So you want to be a pilot? You've probably read the stories of the expensive flight training, years of instructing followed by long working hours at a regional with shockingly low pay rates. Perhaps you aspire to eventually make it to the 'majors' or a secure corporate jet job, where you might find some stability and decent pay if the airline doesn't restructure in bankruptcy or the corporate flight department doesn't shut down during a cutback.
There's plenty of turbulence in any flying career. That fact hasn't changed since the '70s, to be honest. But pilots are still attracted to the job for a variety of reasons. It's hard to beat the view or the flexibility in your schedule, and some carriers will take you to places you probably wouldn't have flown to on your own. And for anyone who loves to fly airplanes, you'd be hard pressed to land another career where you can still afford to fly a jet and still be able to accrue enough flight time in to be competent. So even with all the possible hardships, you've decided to chart a course to becoming a pilot. But where do you start?
By far, this is the most frequently asked question we get for Gadling's Plane Answers column. Since it's been twenty years since I was acquiring my ratings and looking for a job, I'll do my best to offer some suggestions to help you along in your career path, and I'll save the story of my climb through the civilian process for another post.
I'd also like to see some suggestions from those who are learning to fly now, as well. So if that applies to you, leave a comment or two about your path.
This post will deal with the more common paths to an airline pilot job in the United States. I hope to tackle some of the steps needed in the U.K., which is representative of the process in Europe, in a future post.
Let me warn you, not only is the process to becoming a pilot a long one, but because of the different choices available to you, this post may be almost as protracted as your career track. But don't get discouraged. Having a variety of options is a good thing.
So let's begin.
In the United States, there are two categories of pilots hired at airlines, and they both involve a few different choices.
Military
If you're young enough and you have close to perfect vision with no other disqualifying medical issues, the military route offers flight training in high performance aircraft at no monetary cost to you. It will, however, mean a commitment to fly in the Air Force, Navy, Marines or Coast Guard for a number of years after you get your wings.
You are smart to get a head start by joining your local chapter of the Civil Air Patrol. The CAP offers a taste of the military way of doing things and, most more importantly, offers you a way to get some flight time, often taking you to your first solo flight and perhaps even more. You'll be required to put in time at meetings and even volunteer for search and rescue missions, but you will also have the opportunity to fly some of their aircraft, such as a Cessna 172 at significantly lower rates than you could through a flight school.
If the CAP isn't in your area, go to www.beapilot.org and sign up for a $100 into flight at a local flight school. It may be all you need to get hooked on flying.
Military flying almost always requires a bachelor's degree and you may prefer to attend a university under the ROTC program, which may pay for a portion of your schooling as well. After school, you'll start your flight training with whatever branch you chose. If you're qualified, you can also aim for the Air Force, Navy or Coast Guard Academy where you'll have a good shot at a flying position upon graduation, and you'll get an amazing education at their University.

Landing an academy position isn't easy. You'll need a recommendation from a member of Congress at the very least. But it's worth a try if you have the grades.
If you already have a college degree, you can also try the National Guard in your state. Once your training is finished, your commitment to the Guard is usually limited to a weekend or two a month for a few years. But you should be prepared to find yourself activated with short notice for a much longer tour or tours should your services be required.
Guard pilots often fly F-16s and military transports such as the C-130, C-141 and the C-5. The Army Guard also has helicopter units and airlines have been known in the past to hire these pilots as well, since many of them have fixed wing (airplane) experience as well.
Regardless of your military path, active duty or reserves, make sure you'll be able to secure a flying spot in the military before agreeing to a long term commitment. I'd also look into the odds of becoming a drone pilot, something airlines aren't likely interested in anytime soon.
Since I went the civilian route, I'm hopeful we'll get some comments here with even more helpful advice on the best way to land a military flying position.
Civilian
My civilian route involved going to college while flying and scrambling for ratings at a nearby airport that was not associated with the university.
Today, a college degree in just about any subject is usually required by the major airlines. Mine was in management, but l'd encourage you to major in something that you could use for an alternate career if you can't find a flying job right away or if you are ever furloughed. Many pilots have side businesses or interests, so think about some of these options when you consider your degree.
You may want to accomplish your solo flight and your private pilot license as soon as possible. The minimum age to solo is 16, but you must be 17 for a private license (PPL in Europe), which will allow you to take passengers up in the air.
Getting from the 60 or so hours you'll have at the end of your private to the 190 to 250 hours needed to get a Commercial license can be challenging. I borrowed some money and bought a very inexpensive ($5,500 in the '80s) 1946 two-seat Luscombe airplane that burned less than five gallons an hour. The same airplane today would sell for around $20,000, but you'll likely get your money out of it when you're ready to sell it, provided it was in decent shape when you bought the plane.
Building flight time is something you can do while working at a job, preferably at the airport or in some way involved in aviation. Your CAP work is very helpful when you want to rent one of their airplanes to build time.
Now you'll need to be focused on getting the trifecta of ratings you'll need-the commercial, multi-engine and instrument ratings-to fly for a living.
You can start with the instrument rating after you have 50 hours of pilot-in-command cross country time.
Upon reaching about 220 hours, you can work on your training for a commercial license. By the time you finish the training at a Part 61 school (more on that later) you will have reached the 250 hours needed. The multi-engine rating can be added on at this time, as well as a Certified Flight Instructor rating.
Part 141
The FAA allows pilots to get a commercial license at 190 hours if they train at what is called a part 141 school. These schools are audited and certified by the FAA and are required to provide a structured course of training that meets certain minimum hours of ground school instruction, its instructors follow an approved syllabus and the school must follow a specific set of requirements defined by the FAA.
Part 141 schools are good at leading you through the process, but if you are training with a freelance instructor or you want to fly at your own pace, a part 61 school may be preferable. I earned my private license through a part 61 school and picked up my advanced ratings with a 141 school. Do a little shopping around when you're ready to decide.
It might surprise you to learn that most instructors have recently secured their ratings and are instructing as a way to build flight time while being paid. They're not getting rich, but at least they're no longer paying $100+ an hour for flight time.
Most pilots would then find themselves flight instructing for a while, before possibly moving on to another odd flying job such as light twin-engine charter flying or even traffic duty for local T.V. and radio stations.
There have been times-as recently as last year-when regional airlines were hiring pilots with the FAA minimum requirements to get their commercial, multi-engine and instrument ratings. However, there's a congressional push since the Colgan Air accident to require 1,000 or 1,500 hours for anyone flying passengers for a regional airline. If this were to happen, the pool of candidates would dry up quickly once the hiring begins again.

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Universities and Academies
Many have heard of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, a school with campuses in Florida and Arizona that offers a college education while also providing an immersive flight training environment.
But there are others as well, such as the University of North Dakota, Western Michigan University, Purdue, Daniel Webster College, and Parks College in St. Louis. There's a great aviation university discussion thread from ten years ago at Airliners.net that is rather enlightening.
You may have also seen ads for the Delta Connection Academy (formerly the Comair Aviation Academy), Gulfstream International, Mesa Airlines Pilot Development and ATP. These outfits will take you from zero time all the way through your ratings and even up to an ATP in some cases. A few are affiliated with regional airlines and promise an interview at the carrier after a period of flight instructing with the company.
Be sure to do a search on these companies before jumping in. I wouldn't, for example, recommend Gulfstream International or Mesa after doing a bit of research. The others had some positive reviews, however.
This is a really tough time to be looking for any type of job. In December of 2012 airlines will again see a number of job openings after retirements dropped to almost zero after the mandatory retirement age was raised by five years from sixty to sixty-five in 2007. I'm hopeful that we'll start to see an uptick in the economy and movement that will make all your efforts now worthwhile.
It's not the job for everyone, and there will certainly be speed bumps along the way, but unlike Sully Sullenberger, I would still recommend an airline pilot job to my kids or anyone who's addicted to flying.
I stumbled across a post from Varrin Swearingen, a pilot who worked his way through the Comair Academy, flew for Comair as a co-pilot and captain on turboprops and jets and then went to work for World Airways. Varrin, like myself, knew he wanted to fly for a living. He was well aware of the challenges that goal presented, including the potential for less than stellar schedules and anemic pay rates.
If you have realistic expectations going in, you'll be able to see the job for what it is later-a great opportunity to fly to places you wouldn't have otherwise seen, in an airplane you enjoy flying, and with people you consider good friends. Oh, and the view exceeds that of any CEO's corner office.

If you made it this far into the post, and you're seriously considering a flying career, I have one last bit of advice. When you get the job, don't get too spun up over contract negotiations or the latest rumors and rants posted to online pilot forums. Always try to remember just how much you wanted the job when you went in for your interview. And take a moment when you're flying a visual approach at night over Boston or New York to glance out the window for just a second and think about just how amazing it is to fly.

If you've recently been through some of the above process, please comment below. I'd love to hear about your experiences. And if you'd like to hear about others who have 'caught the flying bug' and where they are now, take a listen to episode 24 of Joe d'Eon's incredibly well produced and entertaining free podcast, "Come fly with me." [itunes link]
So good luck Michael and let us know in the comments how your CAP experience is going.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
George Jan 14th 2010 8:50PM
I would like to congratulate the 767 captain who flew out of Port-au-Prince just after the earthquake. How did he pull that off?
Kent Wien Jan 14th 2010 11:22PM
I'm looking forward to hearing that story as well, Phillip. It seems the runway was fine, but how'd they work out all the other logistics? I'm sure it's a good story.
Matt N Jan 14th 2010 11:15PM
Hey Kent! I am currently at Western Michigan University. Its a pretty good flying school. The whole community is very professional, from dispatch to the flight line. We currently fly SR20s for our private and instrument ratings. They are being refitted this year with new engines and avionics. (The glass cockpit is amazing to the Cessna 172 I first flew in) For our commercial course we have Piper Seminoles, Piper Senecas, and Piper Arrows. We also have one Super Piper with floats.
I can tell at this point this career is a challenge. Every bit of my free time is taken up by flying, and we don't really have a say on when we fly. They just give us some days of the week to fly and we have to do it. This can be hard when you have class and homework to deal with too. It also becomes hard to just be a college kid, my weekends are pretty much gone to flying so I am slowly losing touch with some friends.
Is it worth it?? I sure hope so! But it can be very discouraging at times.
(Sorry for any grammar and spelling!)
-Matt
Brian Jan 17th 2010 11:49AM
Hi Matt.......So you are lonely pursuing a flying career? Get used to it buddy, because it only gets worse. All the work studying, flying, and getting experience to try to land an airline job does not pay off today. It was always a lousy job.....long duty days and 16 days a month away from home and family. We did it because we loved flying, and the pay, time off, retirement and benefits were worth the sacrifice....looking forward to a well paid retirement was worth 25-30 years of difficult times. Today, the pay at the majors has been cut 30% to 60% due to the outsourcing of jobs to the regional airlines who now fly jets instead of turboprops, we work 3 to 4 days more per month, retirements have been eliminated in bancruptcy court, vacation has been reduced 50% per year, and I pay over $500 per month for health insurance for my family! I cannot recomment this career to anyone, and that is sad. Twenty to thirty years ago, it was a career that fathers encouraged their sons and daughters to go into........today, you will not find ONE airline pilot who would recommend this career to their children......most, like me, highly discourage it! If you want to have a family, find another career path......
Kent Wien Jan 17th 2010 11:59AM
In reply to Brian:
I can think of at least ONE pilot that would recommend this career to their kids. Me. The author of the post. And judging from some of the comments on here, there are others who have been lucky enough to enjoy the career.
In fairness, while I have been through a three-year furlough, and worked for five different airlines, I'm lucky to be flying for a major with my retirement intact, and if I choose, I can fly turns to be home every night. I realize that not every pilot is as lucky.
I liked what one commenter said; it helps to know what you're getting into, without too many unrealistic expectations.
John Mason Mar 28th 2010 11:50AM
Matt
Stick with your dream bud and good luck! I retiried from continental airlines as captain on the 737's 300,500,700,800 and 900. I flew co-pilot on the 727 and flight engineer on the 747. I had a dream one time too while I was in college it was a long road but I don't regret one moment of it. If you need any questions answered e-mail me.
Phillip Jan 14th 2010 10:27PM
Some airlines offer cadet programs where they sponsor your training and may offer you a job at their airline at the end of it.
george garcia Jan 29th 2010 7:26AM
which airline offers these cadets programs?
Rob Close Jan 15th 2010 4:47AM
Hi Kent,
I'm currently going through the steps in Australia. At the moment I am on holiday but when I get back I will put together a post of the options available in Australia and what I am doing.
Kent Wien Jan 17th 2010 12:17PM
I'd love to hear about it, Rob. Thanks.
Rob Close Jan 17th 2010 9:44PM
Here you are, How to be a pilot downunder!
http://theflyinghighblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-to-be-pilot-downunder.html
Zach G Jan 15th 2010 12:00AM
Kent,
I am currently a senior in High School in the Philadelphia, PA area. I received my Private Pilot's License only a few months ago, when I was still 17. I trained on the Diamond DA20, but now also fly the Piper Archer III. Every since I was six years old, I have wanted to do nothing but be an airline pilot. Next year I will be attending Purdue University, specifically their Professional Flight Program. Everyone tells me that I shouldn't study aviation, and that I need a back up, but I feel that I can't go wrong with a degree from Purdue, plus I plan on minoring in Business or Aviation Management. I feel I can get a good back up that way, but flying is what I want to do. I can't wait to start, and I realize that while I have a long journey ahead of me, I can't wait!
Kent Wien Jan 15th 2010 12:01AM
Sounds like a great plan, Zach. I would probably do the same thing. Good luck!
GG Jan 20th 2010 2:30AM
Consider going into cargo. UPS and FED EX Have not cut anyones retirements and they have not filed for bankrupcy. Plus you don't have the head aches of baby sitting flight attendents and passengers!
Nick Jan 15th 2010 12:15AM
Hey Kent,
I'm also from Australia but unlike the previous commenter I'm only 16 and still have a little while to go before I can take some of the steps you mentioned.
Here there are University degrees specifically for those who want to be a pilot (http://www.griffith.edu.au/science/aviation/programs-courses). I asked a couple of pilots who are friends on which option would be best (i.e university or just to get your licenses from a flight school), how they got to where they are etc.. but the more I ask the more different answers I get. Some say the university degrees are useless, others say that they're great, so at the moment I think I'll just remember those words in the second last paragraph you wrote and see where I take myself.
Lou Jan 15th 2010 1:48AM
Hi everybody,
I'm from France and we do have a wonderful thing here : there is a free public flight school. It's called the ENAC and it will bring you from 0 hour to the full qualification. But as you would have guess they is few places. For instance this year only 38 (for over 2000 applications) . So I would like to know more about the private schools in Europe and how you can finance its.
Last year i had failed at the interview. I was probably a bit young by the school standards. What do personality do you think they are looking for in a flight school student ?
Anyway your posts are always great Kent and they are really helping me to persevere in this way.
Lou
Peter Jan 15th 2010 2:35AM
For those who does not mind working overseas, there is a few much simplier alternative. Cathay Pacific Airways offer a cadet pilot program and this program is now open internationally, so anyone can apply. With this program, Cathay Pacific will train you to become one of their pilot (only if you get accepted of course, the application process is very competitive with less than 1% of applicant accepted each year), the catch is that you will have a 6 years bond with the company (you need to work for the company for at least 6 years). The training will take place at a training facility in Australia and you will spend 14 months of intensive training for you to recieve a Hong Kong CPL, IR, and frozen ATPL. The minimum applicant age is 18 years old and you can get more information at the Cathay Pacific website: www.cathaypacific.com (click on career at the bottom of the page). I think if you can get into this program, this is probably the easiest method for anyone to join a major international carrier! Finally, there is a few other airlines that offer similar program overseas, I think Eithad in the middle east is one of them. But I think the program by Cathay Pacific is probably one of the best if you can get in! Just my two cents!
Phillip Jan 15th 2010 10:02AM
Just to add to that. The careers link which leads to the Cadet Pilot Programme only appears on the Cathay Pacific Hong Kong site. So either google "Cathay Cadet Programme" or "Cathay Pacific Careers" or go to www.cathaypacific.com and select the Hong Kong - English portal from the top right hand corner.
Phil Jan 15th 2010 12:25PM
I got my FAA private certificate + instrument rating in Boston, then moved to Australia and converted it to an AU PPL. Just for pleasure, but in both places I've rubbed elbows with those trying to make a career of it.
I don't know what the process is currently like for foreign nationals to get student pilot licenses in the US -- arduous and frustrating, no doubt -- but there is absolutely no comparison financially: it is much, much cheaper to fly in the US, at least when you're just doing it on your own; I can't speak for university courses.
Assuming you do your first 250 hours in the US, I wouldn't be surprised if you saved $25,000. It's that much cheaper.
Conversion is a bureaucratic but straightforward process. Australian air law is maddeningly redundant, needlessly verbose, and in places bafflingly self-contradictory. Whereas the FAR/AIM clocks in at 1,000 pages and a cool twelve Earth dollars, I needed 5 full-size A4 binders full of noise, priced at AU$275. No wonder the exam is open-book. But fundamentally, the regs are very similar, as you'd expect. You learn the details that are different and move on.
After the written air law exam, you do a few flights with a local instructor to learn procedures and desert navigation, then a pretty standard (though much longer than in the US) checkride.
Finally, something I've not seen mentioned is how much I think one benefits from learning in a place like Boston, New York, SF, or similar: you learn what busy means. Learning at an airport underneath the Logan class B, you get from day zero the experience of working with ATC, radar, and jet traffic in some of the busiest airspace in the world. The controllers in Perth get all snippy and claim overload when they get four heavies in the same hour. I've heard this lack of experience reflected in the radio work of other pilots, but if you learn to fly around a major US class B, you'll never have mic fright, and you'll feel confident anywhere.
That being said, if you're planning a job in Australian domestic aviation, you're going to be doing a lot of flying in places where you don't see another airplane all day. The outback is devoid of radar, and instead of or in addition to flight instructing, you may find yourself building time doing cattle mustering, fox baiting, fire spotting, or crop spraying.
So maybe it doesn't make much difference. Still, twenty-five grand is twenty-five grand.
Justin Jan 15th 2010 3:25PM
Hey Kent,
I am about to start training for my PPL at a nearby part 61 school but I'm curious as to how safe their aircraft are. I took an intro flight in a 1970 Piper Warrior and the rest of their planes are Cessna 152's of the same age. Do these schools have regulations to keep the planes in good condition?