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OJ scandal! Has American Airlines lost their minds?
American Airlines is in the throes of an OJ scandal -- but it's not about OJ Simpson. No. It's about everyone's favorite breakfast delight: Orange juice.On December 6th, a man in first class asked a flight attendant for a glass of orange juice and got a temper tantrum. David Koss, a fellow passenger, witnessed the debacle and wrote a lengthy and well-reasoned letter to The Consumerist, who published it alongside an old magazine ad with an AA stewardess curled in a chair next to the words: "Think of her as your mother."
Your mother would probably tell you to get your own dang orange juice, right?
Well, the flight attendant, Helen (according to Koss), took it further than that. She allegedly began with "This must be your first time in first class" (totally inappropriate), and he responded that he was actually a ten year Executive Platinum flier. Then she blew up on him -- and actually woke David Koss, who tells the first part of the story second-hand -- and stormed up to the front of the plane. Soon after, she got testy with the passengers talking about the explosion. "We were actually nervous to be in the presence of such an unstable individual," comments Koss.
Then, taking it still further, Helen came back to the OJ man ...
"with a written warning she said was from the captain. It stated that he may be in violation of Federal Law for 'Threatening, intimidating, or interfering with a crewmember (section 91.11).' She said, 'I didn't want to have to do this in front of every one, but here you go.' According to the document, he could be put in prison for asking for his orange juice."
After descending, Koss and his fellow passengers were met at the gate by an airline representative who informed them that "the Feds would probably have to investigate due to this warning being issued;" apparently those slips are a "big deal."
Normally we'd say that this was obviously the result of a single individual coming undone (Koss notes that she was clearly "already having a very bad day") and not really a reflection on the airline (every office has a screw loose now and again), but Koss concludes his letter with:
"This woman's behavior is completely unacceptable and is a perfect example of what I've been seeing in AA flight attendants for years now. They don't want to be there, make up their own rules that don't reflect the company, and have huge disdain for the people paying their salary ... the customers."
What do you think? Do you find the flight attendants on American Airlines different from other airlines? Do you feel disdained? Discuss.
UPDATE: Learn what Heather Poole, Gadling's resident flight attendant, thinks about this!
UPDATE 2: The man who ordered the OJ responds.














Reader Comments (Page 5 of 12)
C.A. Dec 12th 2009 10:16AM
FA's are no different than anyone else in the service field, ie grocery, department, big box stores. In my experience if you treat someone with dignity & respect you will receive the same. Not 100% but pretty close. Recently I have flown internationally extensively racking up a number of long hour flights. Most of my flights have been on AA with a few on KLM, United and Emirites. Not one time have I experienced or witnessed a less than profession FA. I have witnessed a few (this is a very small number) passengers that needed a good b-slap. Remember D & R works probably 99.9% of the time.
Shell Dec 12th 2009 10:05AM
Oh Jeanne... you are funny and off base. You have to actually attend FA training and hear what airlines pound into the heads of FA's. Safety, safety safety. All that courtesy BS is barely touched on, not that I need a lesson on be friendly and courteous, but I will not stand for rude passengers who have an idea that they are entitled. I love people for the most part and I want to make their flights happy and memorable in a positive way, but in this case I really don't think we getting the entire story. PS... try pushing that 275 pound cart up the isle and let see if you can get by without "bumping" anyone. Oh and also, commercial travel is really just not the best senerio, so if ya don't like it, get a privite jet.
ed Dec 12th 2009 10:40AM
maybe you should get a job outside the service industry
bcarrknapp Dec 12th 2009 10:08AM
I find it amusing that they say they are only there for our safety. Some of the flight attendants I have seen are over 60 (or at least they look like it ) and I would not depend on them to help me if something went wrong.Some are very overweight and get out of breath just going up an down the isle. In fact, I would probably need to help them. If safety is the only reason they are there, then why not hire young healthy strong men who will just sit on the plane through the flight and only be available if something should go wrong. My husband and I fly frequently and it is so like being on a greyhound bus. The planes are dirty. The seats are falling apart. If you look the wrong way, the flight attendants bite your head off. I have been yelled at by flight attendants for not having my seat back up when taking off and landing and when I tell them the seat is broken( which most of the time they are) they get indignant and just yell louder! The flight attendants huddle in the galley area and you can hear them complaining about their jobs constantly. There are many thousands of people out of work. Maybe they should quit if they hate it so much and let someone who really wants to work have their job!
Clever Dec 12th 2009 11:30AM
I totally agree. Whats a 60 year old gunna do during a terriost attack? Or anyone getting attacked by a terrorist? Thats usually why there are at least 1 Air Marshel on the plane. If there was a real terrorist attack the F/A's would befreaking out just like everyone else. And some of the F/A's are tiny, how would they fight against a man with a gun? How are F/A's supposed to help a person when they ingore passangers? I don't understand how they are there for our safety. I don't remember the airlines but I flew from Alt. to Italy we had to watch a video about the exist and seatbelts etc. The F/A's barely even delt with me or the group I was with. I think the airlines need to review their actions over the last few years and make some changes or else people are gunna be driving, going on trains or taking boats places.
Lynn Fischer Dec 12th 2009 10:14AM
If you've ever flown Korean Air or any other Asian airline you know what good airline service is. American flight attendants (flying any United States airline flights) are too often (but not always) jerks, rude, sometimes nasty, and hardly coooperative. Occasionally a few are especially helpful. Plus many of the women are overweight, unkempt, others have ridiculous hair or nail styles and seem unprofessional to the point of making the flight scary. Recently one with a very short skirt kept bending over in front of the pilot's door, her rear towards the passengers (I'm in the back coach). The whole aisle was filled with men leaning out towards the center to get a better look. Talk about skanky.
DON Dec 12th 2009 10:25AM
Don't fly American or United. Horrible experience with flight attendants and other employees of both airlines!!
lucy Dec 12th 2009 10:28AM
Say groundwhore, if someone has an existing low blood sugar problem, it is their
responsibility to to have candy, oj, or meds to control the problem. Duh..
Chuck Dec 12th 2009 10:28AM
I took my first plane ride in 1977. I was having trouble finding my seat. The stewardess was extremely rude. Yep, it was American and I have not flew with them since.
sxcgem81 Dec 12th 2009 10:29AM
I always fly Southwest! they have the most helpful and they are always being funny on the intercom and making eveyone comfortable! they are usually the cheapest and u dont have to pay for your luggage with southwest!! i have flown AA before and actually did have a rude flight attendent. so i never fly with them if i dont have to!
M Dec 12th 2009 10:29AM
Here's the rub; If FA's don't feel that they're there for more than our safety, then it's time to jump the plane and find a different job. At times like these, be thankful you have a job!
Yerdy Dec 12th 2009 11:03AM
One airline who also has excellent customer service is Midwest. I have flown them numerous times, and it's like being in first class all the time. You'll never find any better customer service anywhere in the air!
That being said, there are plenty of flight attendants who have to put up with a lot of stuff from idiot passengers. I was on a United flight from Denver to San Francisco and voluntarily bumped myself so I could upgrade to first class and also have a voucher for later flights. The woman who sat next to me in first was an absolute, um, snot (and this turned into a literal thing later). She was very demanding of the FAs there, wanted me to change my seat with her assistant (she never asked, just glared at me, which of course, made me just settle in more), and the words, "please" and, "thank you" would never dare to pass by HER lips. When the flight was ending, we were given hot towels to freshen up with. The woman promptly blew her nose in hers, then stuffed it in the seat back. I couldn't believe it! I mean, someone else had to clean up after her, whether it was the FAs or the ground crew. So, I give FAs a lot of respect. Most of them deserve it.
Unlike the FA in this story. Sounds like she has more than a little lag in her customer service skills. Wow.
clmail10 Dec 12th 2009 10:31AM
i agree with the flight attendant...how dare he ask for orange juice..who the hell does he think he is anyway?? geeeeeeeeeeeeeezus
D.F. Dec 12th 2009 10:34AM
Don't have these problems with Delta, Continental and Southwest!!
edeward Dec 12th 2009 10:37AM
I have to agree with this story, as I have seen FA's act in the same way on my many flights on AA. I am a platinum member that flies business class most of the time and I have received for the most part extremely rude service whenever I have asked for anything extra on an AA flight. I find that the least I interact with these pretentious flight attendants the better my flight. It is normal to receive a "pink slip" from these FA's if they have done something wrong because that way the person they have wronged has no recourse to complain about them, which in turn protects their job. It's a horrible way for AA to do business.
Tara Connolly Dec 12th 2009 10:41AM
The primary responsibilities of a Flight Attendant are to provide SAFETY and COMFORT, and WELL BEING, period. I have be flying 31 yrs and I am a short, chubby, most consider a "cute" mature women. I have seen it all rude flight attendants and rude passengers....I don't work for AA or Southwest which seems to be getteng the most coverage in this blog. I have always advocated that I am on an aircraft first and foremost for SAFETY however the sevice I provide is directly proportiomal to the type of service I provide my passengers ie. Bad Service No Passengers to Save. RIght? It is a fine line flight attendant walk...while being in air waitresses, bartenders, babysitters, bouncers, maids, garbage managers, nurses and peace keepers we have to keep in mind safety is first. With that said if you are on a UA flight and spot a funny little fat red headed flight attendant ( that wouls be me) don't hesitate to call because I believe safety and service go hand and hand. By the way, I am sorry I bumped your seat and believe me I would retire however without a pension it is difficult to start a more age appropriate career at 55...please don't suggest I become a Walmart greeter as I have treated you all with the utmost repsect for many years.....Sorry to be so long winded.
Joyce Dec 12th 2009 10:42AM
American Airlines is the worst. Their customer service people at JFK were unreasonable and thought nothing of condemning me to a 24 hour overnight wait after I had already spent the whole day flying from Scotland. There is only one flight a day to Pittsburgh and after waiting in their long line to check in baggage, I arrived 40 (not 45 minutes ahead of the flight). The sadistic pleasure they took in stranding me at JFK made me vow never to fly American again. I ended up having to pay another $200 to fly back to Pittsburgh the next morning on Jet Blue.
Kevin Dec 12th 2009 1:51PM
It only goes to show you that a Persons attitude at there Job starts at the top ( CEO ) . If your Superiors are Jerks to there Employees then you get that trickle done effect , which in this case are the Cuctumers that are Paying there Saleries . Also , Employees do have bad days but they need to realize they need to leave there bad days at home and to never bring there problems to work . It's to bad that some workers let there Positions go to there Heads .
sean Dec 12th 2009 10:47AM
WHAT happen to the friendly skies? It's not just AA .... I fly first class 3-4 times a week! Needless to say I am on a plane a lot! FA's main reason for being on a plane is our safety ....getting a drink is second! With that said....... Keep me safe! Keep moving around the plane,give me a drink and a snack, SMILE and let me to myself for reading or SLEEP! From my post to the airlines CEO's LISTEN to your consumers....PLEASE!!!!!
Amaze Dec 12th 2009 3:26PM
I'm old enough to remember when air travel was on propeller-driven aircraft. Travel was slow, the seats were ample, in-flight meals were looked forward to, the stewardesses were called that, and they were sweet, pretty, young and unmarried. And they were my age. Today the jets are faster (although with delays the flight is often longer), the seats are comfortable only if you are within the lower thirty- percentile human size, there is nothing to eat, you're constantly being bashed by the luggage brought on board by other passengers, and you are given a cellophane bag of pretzels. And the "stewardesses" are nasty, overweight, often male (although there always were male versions), and resentful if they have to provide some service. And also, they're still my age.