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OJ scandal! Has American Airlines lost their minds?
American Airlines is in the throes of an OJ scandal -- but it's not about OJ Simpson. No. It's about everyone's favorite breakfast delight: Orange juice.On December 6th, a man in first class asked a flight attendant for a glass of orange juice and got a temper tantrum. David Koss, a fellow passenger, witnessed the debacle and wrote a lengthy and well-reasoned letter to The Consumerist, who published it alongside an old magazine ad with an AA stewardess curled in a chair next to the words: "Think of her as your mother."
Your mother would probably tell you to get your own dang orange juice, right?
Well, the flight attendant, Helen (according to Koss), took it further than that. She allegedly began with "This must be your first time in first class" (totally inappropriate), and he responded that he was actually a ten year Executive Platinum flier. Then she blew up on him -- and actually woke David Koss, who tells the first part of the story second-hand -- and stormed up to the front of the plane. Soon after, she got testy with the passengers talking about the explosion. "We were actually nervous to be in the presence of such an unstable individual," comments Koss.
Then, taking it still further, Helen came back to the OJ man ...
"with a written warning she said was from the captain. It stated that he may be in violation of Federal Law for 'Threatening, intimidating, or interfering with a crewmember (section 91.11).' She said, 'I didn't want to have to do this in front of every one, but here you go.' According to the document, he could be put in prison for asking for his orange juice."
After descending, Koss and his fellow passengers were met at the gate by an airline representative who informed them that "the Feds would probably have to investigate due to this warning being issued;" apparently those slips are a "big deal."
Normally we'd say that this was obviously the result of a single individual coming undone (Koss notes that she was clearly "already having a very bad day") and not really a reflection on the airline (every office has a screw loose now and again), but Koss concludes his letter with:
"This woman's behavior is completely unacceptable and is a perfect example of what I've been seeing in AA flight attendants for years now. They don't want to be there, make up their own rules that don't reflect the company, and have huge disdain for the people paying their salary ... the customers."
What do you think? Do you find the flight attendants on American Airlines different from other airlines? Do you feel disdained? Discuss.
UPDATE: Learn what Heather Poole, Gadling's resident flight attendant, thinks about this!
UPDATE 2: The man who ordered the OJ responds.















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 12)
Zach Dec 10th 2009 6:06PM
Flight attendants seem to work at the extremes of customer service--some are wonderful but others provide the worse customer service out there, possibly because they have a bit more authorti than other workers in that industry.
lattelily Dec 12th 2009 7:41AM
Simply terrible. I agree that service from an airline hostess/stewardess has become a cult of ill-behaved, unsatisfied, chip-on-the-shoulder and control issue people. I have yet to see a happy and satified airline worker who serves the customers on their flight. Consumers must demand a change. AA is not the only airline providing service with an arrogant attitude: Continental, Southwest and United have joined the ranks of fellow AA psychos. If I were on the board of AA corporation, I would run to offer this man traveling with my airline for 10 years, at least 1 free domestic roundtrip airfare per year for 3 years. Time is money and this poor man had to endure further stalling by being detained for an "investigation?" Come on AA ... you should change those initails to represent what customers think of you today: FF
patt Dec 12th 2009 10:19AM
I have had three bad experiences on AA with rude flight attendants. Three strikes and the airlines is out...I will never set foot on an AA flight again even if the seats were free.
Bill Dec 12th 2009 11:30AM
Fire her if the story is true...she gives all the good A/A employees a bad name...I've had nothing but positive experiences with A/A and will continue using them
DD Dec 12th 2009 11:56AM
I regularly fly to U.K. 2 times a year and India once a year every Airline except American a nd United have bee wonderful. I wil never fly a U.S. based Airline again. Air Newzealand and Cathay Pacific has the best customer service
Kathleen Hennessey Dec 12th 2009 1:18PM
My daughter (now an attorney) was a flight attendant for 7 years. I remember the time a Delta Airlines pilot dropped her off at a closed-for-the-night regional airport when she could not work any longer due to a serious case of food poisoning (ever tried to grab something to eat late in the evening between connecting flights when your flight has been delayed?) The flight took off, leaving her in an empty airport. No one even tried to get help for her.
I remember the time she tried to reach her supervisor in Dallas late at night because a drunken passenger, whom she would not allow to get out of his seat during landing, urinated all over her and her uniform--including her shoes--as he was leaving the plane.
I remember all the times she worked a long day and then had to walk through a dangerous neighborhood near the airport to an apartment the flight attendants shared for between-flights rest.
Orange juice might have been the last straw.
robert Dec 12th 2009 12:21PM
I fly often for my job on Southwest, Airtran and Jet Blue. All do a decent job. Recently flew AA to Chicago. One of the flight attendants was extremely irritable and rude to several passengers over simple requests and questions. Another flight attendant must have said 25 times over the loudspeaker as we were boarding "please place your roller boards into the overheads; handles first" ....I've never heard of a rolling suitcase called a "roller board"....very weird.
I commented about the "roller board" comment and the irritable attendant to the man sitting next to me and he said he flys AA all the time and that's the way the flight attendants are on AA ..."they are all on some sort of weird power trip" he said. Seemed so to me as an infrequent customer of AA.
phil Dec 12th 2009 12:57PM
I believe there are two sides to this story. I'd be willing to bet that this passenger provoked the flight attendant and that the F/A can't tell her side of the story because she would lose her job. Years ago John Wannamaker, the department store king, made the statement that "the customer is King!" Years ago most customers were civil, knew how to tip for good service, and knew the meaning of the words lady and gentleman.
Today, most Americans are boorish buffons in public. They have no shame and expect customer service personnel to be handmaidens rather than professionals. Wannamakers admonition is woefully outdated in this day and age. The customer is NOT always right. There are some customers that any business doesn't need. I, for one, have no problem telling these fools this fact, to their face. I, however, own my business, and have the authority to do just that. I pity those who must suffer in customer service.
Chris Dec 12th 2009 12:41PM
Well as a former FA for AA ill tell you this they don't call AA Airnazy for nothing. I had 10 passengers right letters saying they loved the sense of humor and the jokes. Well I was called into MGT office and told we don't do that here at AA. So thoughts on this were ok here here to PI-- them off instead of making them happy. Well this shows when you layoff all the new people that are wanting to be there and doing a great job and keep those senior mammas that are there for nothing then you better get used to it. This is a company instead of offering a great retirement package seniors can take to leave and keep the new blood. So here is the problem. If you don't like the service you should drive or well get used to it because for the next 5 years or more there is going to be no new young blood that wants this great job. Instead your gonna have seniors that are working longer hours for less pay.
rick Dec 12th 2009 1:44PM
How true. Before I retired I was a police officer at Miami International Airport, and American Airlines was consistantly number one for customer conflicts. In the air, the government has given them way too much authority and I believe it is abused on a regular basis.
Kelly Dec 10th 2009 7:13PM
Am I missing something here? He asked for a glass of orange juice and was threatened with prison for intimidation? Seriously?! Did he yell at her? Say he would slash her throat if she didnt comply? Threaten her firstborn son?
I should think that if you ask a flight attendant for anything, regardless of where you are sitting, you should be able to get it.
AA should be bending over backwards to compensate this passenger for such a harrowing experience. No one should be yelled at on flight: neither the staff OR passengers!
Daryl Dec 12th 2009 3:06PM
Do you seriously believe any person asking for a glass of orange juice would get such a reply?? There's obviously another side to this story
Nick Dec 10th 2009 9:04PM
Although I will not call out names, most frequent flyers like me would have observed over the years that some airlines have better customer-friendliness than others.
To take an example on the brighter side, each time I fly Southwest, I'm always struck by their overall enthusiastic, friendly, casual-happy demeanor. Its feel-good vibe can be seen in their CEO to all the way down to Southwest's every single FA and gate agent. It is so obvious that the corporate culture adopted by the top management gets imbibed in all the company employees.
Some cabin crew members have this habit of complaining about poor pays, unearthly working hours and unruly passengers and how all these affect their performance/moods. While these may be totally true, can they really be considered reasonable excuses for poor service? Do not forget that you are in the customer care business, and in your line of work customers take priority over most issues (except safety/security).
Bill Dec 12th 2009 10:08AM
I agree with Nick. Nothing but the best service from Southwest and I fly them 20-30 times a year. I live in the St. Louis area and, unfortuantely, the number of AA flights in and out of our city has been declining for years. As much the result of the condition of the airline industry overall, as the poor customer service and attitude of some of their employees. It's sad when I think about how employee attitude and morale can negatively impact a business to the point it has AA.
Pauline Dec 10th 2009 10:55PM
I don't fly American, usually Southwest (I agree with the positive comments made by Nick) or United and have had good and bad experiences with UA staff on and off the plane. Not sure I would attribute the bad experiences with them to the airline.
I got yelled at today by a student in a program I run about how rude and insensitive I was for something I did. After I apologized to her, I got the most ungracious acceptance of my apology I have ever had.
This from a woman who has talked throughout each and every presentation, ignored instructions to let the speakers get through their presentations before asking questions (I'm sure she didn't hear because she was talking) and is so condescending to the poor people sitting at her table that they can't wait for the class to be over.
To paraphrase, rudeness is all in the eye of the beholder, I guess. OJ for the passenger on AA, the inability to wait on someone hand and foot for me. Can you transfer your miles to another airline? I would call AA and ask them, then tell them why if I were that passenger.
flyboyzii Dec 12th 2009 6:27AM
I agree with pretty much everything you stated with the ONE exception being that Flight Attendants are NOT there to tend to a passenger hand & foot. They are there primarily for your safety ONLY. They (flight attendants) are required to provide beverage service etc...but they are not airborn wait staff to tend to your every little pampered need.
Jack Dec 12th 2009 10:25AM
NO, they are not there to "serve" you or anyone else. They are onboard to ensure safety and security for you and all other passengers. I am a long-time (more than 15 years) flight attendant for a major U.S. airline. Yes, I agree that they should be warm and inviting to every single passenger. Yes, I agree that they are the face of customer service and should present themselves as such. Yes, I agree that this F/A was totally in the wrong for what she did. But you have to remember this: Flight attendants are there to save your ass, not to kiss it.
Earl Dec 12th 2009 10:46AM
They are overpaid and over glorified servers.
don Dec 12th 2009 11:20AM
flyboy and jack you are both wrong......completely and totally wrong. they are not called flight safety personel... no, they are called flight attendents because they are to attend to the customers sitting in the back of the plane, i dont need a 60 yr old over make-upped lady to save me. i can do that myself. they are service personel and thats what they need to stick to, we have air marshalls for safety. that FA (waitress) should be fired!!!!! i fly southwest exclusively because of the people at that airline treat me with dignity and respect. plus they dont try and pry every last penny from me to fly, charging for luggage is just rude
juile Dec 12th 2009 12:31PM
I try to avoid AA in the past several years. Since AA took over TWA, to be exact.
Diplomacy and professionalism seemed to have been lost,since the take over.
Flight Attendendants are UNfriendly,ignore you as much as possible,short temp-
ered.. The vibes they give off in general on the entire plane does not make the
flight a comfortable,relaxed experience.
It seems EVERY other Airline I fly is much better than AA,flight experience wise.
Even with little problems here and there on flight;the Flight Attendent-Passenger
relations makes the flight still enjoyable,for the most on the other Airlines.
More than any other factor;that Flight Attendenant-Passenger relationship is the
biggest factor of a flight being Enjoyable or NOT.