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Cockpit Chronicles - Practicing takeoff and landings in a 737 (with Video)
Update: Sorry, but we've been asked to pull this video from the site.Ten years ago this month, I had the rare opportunity to take a 737 out for some flying in the Bay Area without passengers. I was finishing up my FO (copilot) training in the 737-800. Usually, this means a pilot would receive a checkride in the simulator and then find themselves out on the line with a check airman on a normal passenger trip.
However, since our company didn't operate the 737 before, the first 50 crews to go through training were required by the FAA to fly the actual airplane, performing takeoffs and landings, what we call "bounces," without passengers on board.
These excercises were actually touch and go landings – a maneuver that you'll almost never see in an airliner, but a rather common practice among smaller airplanes.
We don't normally allow filming during the sterile cockpit period (below 10,000 feet) but this training flight was a good opportunity to film from the jumpseat a tape that would later be used by check airman when reviewing the procedures for future 'bounces.'
The instructor briefed us on the procedures we'd be using that night for our flight from San Jose to Sacramento. He emphasized that we would touch down in the first 3,000 feet as we normally do, but we wouldn't use any reverse thrust or braking. If reverse thrust was used at any point, the touch and go would revert to a 'full stop' landing.
In fact, after every landing you'll hear the instructor call out "Stand 'em up" and then a few moments later, "Push 'em up." This was a command to advance the thrust levers, which he would give after retracting the flaps from the landing setting to the takeoff setting. We would move these levers to a vertical position until we could be sure the engines spooled up evenly and then 'push them up' to the normal takeoff position.
He had us draw a 3-mile circle around the Sacramento airport so we could safely get as many landings in as we could in the hour provided. There was almost no other traffic in the area, so we were free to keep the pattern close to the airport which resulted in ten landings during that hour.
So come along for this 1999 training flight, one of the few chances I'll ever get to show you what goes on during takeoff and landing. And for us, it was certainly one of the only chances we'll get to borrow a 737 for a hop around the patch.
It was a bit of a flashback for me. To improve my chances of getting hired at a large airline, I had picked up a 737 type rating in 1992 shortly before landing my current job. The checkride was completed in a Continental 737-200 that rented for $60 a minute back then. Needless to say, I worked hard to make sure it didn't last more than an hour at the time. So this time it was nice to have someone else footing the bill.The captain and I finished up our 'bounces' in the newer 737, and proceeded back to San Jose, California, just a few minutes from Sacramento. We had been blessed to start flying passengers when the plane came to Boston a few days later.
I thoroughly enjoyed the training in that newer and higher-tech 737, a plane I referred to as "not your father's 737" – a take off from the Oldsmobile advertisements and an inside joke for me, since my dad flew the 737-200 for many years.
Hopefully I'll get a chance to do this again someday. Maybe with the arrival of the Boeing 787 in a few years.
Cockpit Chronicles takes you along on some of Kent's trips as an international co-pilot on the Boeing 757 and 767 based in Boston. Have any questions for Kent? Check out Plane Answers.

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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Gordon Apr 29th 2009 10:41AM
It's interesting that the amount of time to do a circuit in the Katana DA-20 I learned to fly about 12 years ago was the same as the 737-800 you were flying: 6 minutes.
Wouldn't have wanted to have been in the pattern behind a 737-800, though!
Lou Apr 29th 2009 12:07PM
I've a question about the "bounces", why does the instructor put his hand over the thrust levers after the rotation ? Is it a safety in case of abortion of the takeoff ? And do you practice aborted takeoff like fore light plane ?
Thank you for your cockpit chronicles and plane answer's it's very interesting.
Please tell me if I made mistakes I'm still learning English.
Bill Apr 29th 2009 12:46PM
Kent -- good stuff!
Alex Apr 29th 2009 3:20PM
Looks like an awesome time Kent! So are touch and go's really that rare of a thing in regular passenger service? Have you ever had to do one?
I'm just wondering beacuse I had the opportunity to experience a touch and go as a passenger many years ago in an old DC-10 at O'Hare. The main gear touched down on the runway, and instead of hearing the thrust reversers engage as expected, the pilot ramped it up to takeoff power and we lifted back off. It scared my mom a little bit, but I was still young and thought it was the coolest thing ever.
I didn't get a chance to talk to the pilot; I've always just assumed he touched down too far down the runway and was concerned about going off the end. I've read about how the DC-10 has had several runway overrun accidents over the years. Any thoughts? Also have you ever gotten behind the controls of a DC-10? I've heard it's a blast to fly.
Happy Travels Kent!
-Alex
Aspiring Private Pilot
johnmc Apr 29th 2009 2:27PM
Was this at SAC as tagged on YouTube or SMF (which seems much more likely)?
Kent Wien Apr 29th 2009 8:38PM
Thanks John. Yep, you're right. It's SMF. I don't get there very much.
johnmc Apr 29th 2009 9:10PM
Thought as much - I spent two years working there before moving to FAT. It was definitely a fun video to watch. I'd love to see some AA 737s come to either airport.
zf May 1st 2009 5:32AM
The pilot in the right seat, the instructor pilot in this case, is the non flying pilot, the non flying pilot is referred to as the "pilot monitoring", the pilot monitoring will place his hands on the power levers when the pilot flying removes his hands to rotate. The pilot monitoring guards the power levers in case there is an auto throttle malfunction or in the event the power levers creep back for some reason, these are not common malfunctions but there is a procedure in place just in case. in many many years of flying jets I have never had a power lever creep back but I have had it happen in piston engine aircraft and by adhering to this procedure a reduction of power close to the ground did not happen. After a safe altitude is reached, usually a few hundred feet or so the pilot monitoring can move his hand away from the power levers and resume other duties. I hope that helps...
Kent Wien May 3rd 2009 11:40PM
Thanks. No, it didn't use a light. I had it on an infrared mode most of the flight so the pilots were visible. This mode also didn't require any light, so it wasn't a distraction.
Mark Richards May 3rd 2009 10:05PM
Fascinating. And really good video.
Did your camera use a light?
James Coleman May 6th 2009 11:00AM
Fascinating stuff. I used to have similar experiences in the Air Force at Charleston S.C. We would perform an ILS to runway 15 then pull up to a downwind for runway 21, then do touch and goes back and forth between the 2 runways. That you were able to actually able to FLY the plane (versus the simulator) was a real treat! I am contemplating bidding the 737 or 767 soon, so thanks for sharing your video, and please keep up the great work on this blog!
Sven May 20th 2009 12:45PM
Hey kent,
very nice video!
kinda interesting that you don`t usually get to do a real life landing training as part of your typerating. Over here in Europe (germany) it`s still very common to put some real rubber on the runway before you progress to line flying with your check-captain...
greetings
sven
David Jun 3rd 2009 7:47PM
Love the video but concerned that you did not set any DH for the approach. On each landing you hear the GPWS call out the altitude but it doesn't call "Minimums" until after touch down. Was this because it was a training flight, VFR, or just an oversight?
Kent Wien Jun 3rd 2009 8:46PM
At that time we had the option of setting the field elevation in for the decision height alert or the Cat I altitude (usually 200 feet).
Thanks!
Tim Jun 4th 2009 9:38PM
That was really cool to watch!
Thanks!
David Gorrell Jul 22nd 2009 3:07AM
Ahh - good memories, Kent !
Tell the Captain to get a haircut! :-)))
~ D.G.
Patrick Jun 23rd 2009 10:07AM
Cool video!
A couple of quick questions, if I may...
1. What is the beep/buzz heard right after the "Stand 'em up!" callout? Is this something from the FMC alerting throttle movement or something else?
2. From what I've read (mostly on a.net), the TO/GA switch is frequently mentioned. Is selecting TO/GA not an option at this stage of landing, i.e. is TO/GA disabled after there is weight on the mains? I was just wondering how this would be integrated with the manual throttle movements of "Stand 'em up" and "Push 'em up."
Thanks!
Kent Wien Jun 23rd 2009 10:14AM
Thanks Patrick,
1. The beeping noise is the takeoff warning horn. If the flaps, stabilizer trim, spoilers or brakes aren't in the 'takeoff position' then the horn sounds. Since the flaps were in a landing configuration, the check airman has to bring them to a takeoff setting after we touch down.
While the flaps are moving, the throttles are advanced, causing the horn to sound. When the flaps are in the correct position, the check airman would say "push 'em up."
2. We weren't certified to use the auto-throttles all the way to touchdown in our 737s. So to use the TO/GA buttons, we would have had to arm the autothrottles after touching down – and unnecessary distraction during that phase of flight.
Good questions!
Kent