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Airplane alternative: Amtrak train travel is a hit with this Gadling blogger
When searching out the means to go to New York City with my six year-old son from Columbus, Ohio, the $340 sticker price of an airline ticket seemed hefty. Plus, there's the cost of getting from the airport into Manhattan.
Toss in flight delay possibilities, airport security issues, and other unforeseeable problems like lost luggage, and, frankly, airline travel seemed like too much trouble.
Driving, though, wasn't appealing either. While my son would be chattering away in the back looking for entertainment for 11 hours (and no, a DVD player doesn't work that long) I'd be trying to pay attention to the road. My son DOES NOT fall asleep in a car easily no matter how hard you beg--and I've begged.
Then there's the price of gas. Yikes!
I turned to Amtrak for a possible solution. Bingo!
With our AAA discount and buying the tickets in advance, the cost for two one-way tickets was $135.00 because my son's was half-price.
(We traveled back on Greyhound. Post coming on that one.)
The hitch was Columbus's passenger train service doesn't exist.. Train travel means a trip to Cleveland.
Luckily, my in-laws' house is minutes from the Cleveland Amtrak station. We'd get an evening visit before the 6:30 a.m. departure. My husband drove us up and rallied for the 5 a.m. wake-up call.
Here is the difference between air travel and train travel and why I'm sold on the later
Train travel:
- I called Amtrak directly after looking on-line at the ticket schedules. The helpful real person told me how early we needed to get to the train station and booked our tickets at no extra cost. She also gave me a tip on how to avoid a cancellation fee. Don't pick up the tickets before you travel, and then call to cancel up to a day in advance.
- I picked up a print version of the tickets at the Amtrak ticket counter about 20 minutes before departure. Easy as pie. (Eddie's pics are the ticket counter in the Cleveland train station and the view outside the station when the train arrives.)
Air travel:
- I buy directly from an airline's web site after locating the cheapest prices using Expedia or Travelocity. Of course, there's cancellation fees if you change your mind, but on many airlines, like Northwest, you can cancel within 24 hours without a penalty.
- I print out boarding passes after picking out my seat assignment whenever possible.
- Booking through a real person costs extra money.
- Booking is easy, but nerve-wracking. Because it costs to change plans, and booking is usually done so far in advance, I have a burst of anxiety each time I make reservations.
Waiting for departure
Train travel:
- The train station was quiet--sleepy even. Since only one train was coming, there wasn't a lot of hoopla and noise. Not loads of announcements or interruptions.
- Plus, from the door to the seats in the waiting area was only a few steps. There wasn't the security gauntlet either.
- The one downside was I hadn't had coffee yet and wanted some--VERY MUCH. There were only vending machines, and unfortunately, the hot drink vending machine was not working properly. I have no idea what ended up in my cup, but it wasn't coffee. I dumped it in the bathroom sink.
Airport travel:
- Airports, in my experience, are not particularly relaxing. By the time you are waiting for the gate you've had to pass through TSA and other rigmarole steps, all seemingly designed to interrupt the flow of going from here to there.
- There is usually decent coffee, however, if one is willing to pay the price. I am.
Train Travel:
- When the train arrived, there was a quiet movement to the door. My husband helped carry our luggage ALL THE WAY TO THE TRAIN.
- At the train, a friendly conductor asked, "Is anyone traveling together?" Those traveling with someone else were given priority boarding. My son and I, along with two couples, moved to the front of the pack.
- "Do you need any help with your luggage?" asked the friendly, smiling conductor. "No, thanks," I said, but appreciated the hand on my elbow and as I climbed on after he HELPED my son get on board.
- Another man gave me a paper with our seat numbers written on it. Before new passengers get on, the train personnel find out which seats are free to help passengers find seats easily. Handy, clever and HELPFUL
- The train aisles are wide and easy to manuver. The luggage rack is easy to reach and able to accommodate carry on size luggage. For large suitcases, there is a place at the back of each train car.
- Because it was still early in the morning, the lights were dim and boarding was a quiet process as to not disturb the passengers who were still sleeping.
- My husband was allowed on board and gave us a kiss good-bye before we departed.
- Departing was quiet. No announcements about safety or what to do in an emergency. We glided out of Cleveland in the dawn with people still snoozing away.
Air travel:
- You leave your loved ones behind at the security check. No chatting while you wait for boarding which could take hours if there's a delay.
- If you're on a carrier without seat assignments, you have to scout out seats and hope that you can find seats together or ask someone to move.
- If you have seat assignments you bump down the aisle, trying not to whack people with your carry on luggage, hoping that there's a spot to store luggage somewhere near your seat.
- If you're traveling with a child, you're directing him or her where to go without any assistance.
- Departure involves announcements and noise. Slamming of bins, safety talks and engines whirring. If you're trying to sleep, lots of luck.
- That said, there is something thrilling about a take-off on an airplane.
- Enough room between rows for my son to sit on the floor and play.
- Seats have a leg and foot rest that created the effect of sitting in a recliner.
- Each seat has a pillow and a clean head rest cover if you board in the morning.
- Luggage fit easily under the seats in front of us and in the storage over the seat
- Tray tables, when down, were a comfortable distance away
- There are power outlets at each seat, so if you have a lap top or a portable DVD player, you can get plugged in.
Air travel:
- Even a slim person can feel uncomfortable in coach
- Feet rests kind of work
- Getting all but the smallest carry-on won't fit under the seats. Bin space is usually okay, but there's a procedure for settling in comfortably. Airplanes are not roomy
- Tray tables can't be down if you want to do anything else-- like breathe
- Pillows?
Food and dining
Train Travel:
- Because there isn't a problem bringing food and drinks on a train, you could bring a fully loaded picnic basket
- There's a snack car where good coffee is available (Eureka!) and several food options. You can buy a sandwich and carry it back to your seat in a handy carry box, or sit at one of the booths. I only bought coffee here. We opted to eat in the dining car.
- The dining car is a treat and not expensive. We ate both breakfast and lunch here. The dining car has table cloths and a more formal atmosphere where you get waited on.
- For breakfast I had scrambled eggs, a croissant, homemade hash brown potatoes, and a side order of sausage which I shared with my son. He had a child's order of French toast and orange juice. The total bill which included tax was $12.
- For lunch we split an order of Buffalo-style chicken wings and spring rolls which came with celery sticks. My son had cranberry juice to drink and I had coffee. The total was $12. We didn't eat all the chicken wings so we were given a carry out plate with a cover.
Air travel:
- We know how this has been going lately. Nuff said. Just think of your last airplane dining experience, even if you paid for it, and think about how that went as you balanced food and your reading material on the tray table in front of you.
Other passengers and personnel
Train travel:
- People on the train talk with each other. The pace allows for conversations and finding out a bit about people's lives.
- Our first interesting conversation was with an Australian fellow who shared our breakfast table. He was on a 30-day train trip around the U.S. and had just come from an air show in Wisconsin. We shared travel stories and he enjoyed my six-year old. He was perhaps 60 or so.
- There was a family sitting in back of us who were with three kids. They had traveled to and from California on the train for part of their summer vacation. My son played with their kids for a few hours, both at our seats and in the snack bar car.
- Another young couple was on their way to New York City from Cleveland and was interested in things to do in Manhattan
- The wait staff in the dining car were wonderful. Very solicitous and great towards my son.
- The conductors were friendly and often asked people if they needed any help.
Air Travel:
- I've had interesting conversations with a passenger once in awhile, but air travel does not entice conversations since much of the plane is filled with people who are on their way to or from a meeting. People have an aura of, "I'm trying to catch up with my life," on a plane.
- I rarely chat it up with airline personnel. Nothing personal, Heather and Kent, but they're busy people, particularly on short flights.
Toilets
Train travel
- Clean and roomy. Also, nice smelling soap. Since trains sway, it creates some going to the bathroom excitement.
Airplane travel
- Airplane bathrooms are cuter.
Scenery
Train travel
- Perfect for scenery watching. We went past farms, small towns and through cities like Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, Hudson and Poughkeepsie. Through a good part of New York, there were gorgeous views of the Hudson River that went on for miles. I love watching landscapes change.
Airplane travel:
- Except for take off and landings, and passing over landmarks like the Grand Canyon, scenery is not normally top on my list of air travel highlights.
Arrival
Train travel:
- As soon as the train pulls into the station you can get off. You have your bags whether you have big or small ones. Penn Station is easy to navigate. It was easy to find which subway we would take to get to Union Square, the station near where my brother lives.
- We took a taxi, also easy to find.
- We were at my brother's apartment about 20 minutes after we arrived at Penn Station
Airplane travel:
- If we had flown we would have arrived at Newark Airport and either taken the bus which would have been about $22 total and then involved a taxi ride (another $12 to $15) or taken a door to door service which would have been more. Either way, it would have been over an hour to get to my brother's.
- Newark is fairly easy to navigate.
Traveling with a child
Train travel:
- This was an adventure for my son. He loved playing with the other kids, eating in the dining car, watching the scenery, and spending time with me. He DID FALL ASLEEP at lunch so I had to carry him back to our seat.
- We read, he drew, played games and took little walks.
- Kids are not seen as hassles on the train. From what I can tell, people like to travel on trains with their kids so that's why there are kids.
- Maybe because there is enough room on a train, if someone is bothered by kids, he or she can move.
- Airplane travel:
- Air travel is something my son enjoys. His first airplane trip was when he was three months old and take off and landings are swell. He is more squirrely on a plane though because there is not much room to move.
- I've never found an air travel to be that unfriendly towards my kids, but I am cognizant that when someone hears my son's jubilant voice, he or she may wish they could move, but they can't move, so I am on edge.
Summary and other points
My trip on the train sold me on train travel. I know there are problems with train travel, particularly the on time factor--even our train was a half hour late, but on time statistics with airplanes aren't great either.
I can honestly say when we arrived in New York, I felt rested. All that gentle swaying probably relaxed me.
The last photo is at Penn Station after we arrived.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Caroline Sep 9th 2008 10:10AM
Honestly, it would do the government good to bolster train travel -- I take the Acela from New York to Boston or DC all the time and don't understand why anyone takes short-haul flights instead of it, with one exception: it's actually more expensive to take the Acela.
Think about it: You get from city center to city center, New York to Boston, in under 4 hours. No 45-minute cab ride to the airport, no check-in hassle, bigger seats, and outlets for your laptop or BlackBerry. If you take an EVDO card with you, you can actually do work on the train.
It'd be great for both business travelers and the environment if airlines had incentives to cut NYC to Boston and NYC to DC commuter flights and if Amtrak had the funding to improve the Acela's speed (while it's "high-speed" by US standards it's nothing compared to Europe or Japan), handle more passengers efficiently, and charge less for a ticket.
Nathaniel Sep 9th 2008 9:54AM
I agree I love to travel by train. How ever you got lucky. One thing people HAVE to realize (and I can not stress this enough) is that since your traveling on the ground lots of things can stop the train and cause delays. Last time I traveled by train I had 3 Delays totalling 1 day and 12 hours. (1 doesn't happen that often and was truly a shocking experience to me. It caused the train to stop, the engine to be shut off meaning the air conditioning to stop on a hot summer day in Washington DC. Plus the train staff gave us no information.) The second time was leaving family in New England, a Train wreck delayed the train an entire day. The good thing is Amtrak put us up in a hotel room for the night. The third time was nearing home another train wreck forced amtrak to send a bus to finish the trip. Don't get me wrong I love the train, but if I have to be there by a certain time, give me a plane ticket anyday, however if the train is part of the trip I would prefer that.
Jamie Rhein Sep 9th 2008 10:09AM
Hi Nathaniel,
You brought up a good point about the delays. Also, freight trains, from what I've heard, have priority over passenger trains. The key is to not be in a hurry which is one of the things I liked about it.
I've been delayed more than 24 hours, once for 48 hours, when flying. I guess if one travels enough, problems are bound to occur.
It's good to know that Amtrak helps make a bad situation better.
Nathaniel Sep 9th 2008 10:59AM
I don't deny that airlines can have some long delays too but since an airport is much busier then most train stations you usually can get to where your going fairly quickly. One other thing I noticed is the first class lounges, having been in Crown Rooms and Red Carpet Clubs I expect to not be packed in like Sardines like I was at the first class club in Chicago. The room was nice and had free drinks, but it was very, very crowded.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Brenda SFO Sep 9th 2008 10:11AM
Via Rail in Canada is also nice, particularly if you are in one of their Rocky Mountaineer cars. Nathaniel is right though, trains can often be delayed many hours, and often are. But I agree with Caroline, if the US put more money into developing our train service up to the level of Japan or Europe's, I'd be on the train a lot more as well!
Jamie Rhein Sep 9th 2008 10:16AM
Caroline,
You echoed my thoughts also. I lived in Denmark for a semester in college and traveled easily everywhere on the train. When I went to Japan on vacation once we also traveled everywhere on the train.
Your point about city center to city center is right on. Sure you fly to NYC, but you're not in Manhattan.
When I was on Amtrak, I kept thinking how great it would be if train travel was what it is in many countries.
Melissa in Boston Sep 9th 2008 12:32PM
I really happy to hear you had a great experience. I've used the train a few times to get from home to school when I didn't want to drive(there were no flights from Long Island, NY to Providence, RI). On the trains I went on though, no one assigned seats, it was fend for yourself in the seating department. Also one of the times I went home for Easter I had a sprained ankle(so driving wasn't an option) and not a single Amtrak employee offered to help me with my luggage or help me find a seat, and I was on crutches. And yes I did have some luggage, and I did ask for assistance and the conductor said someone on the train will help me, and I ended up limping on my sprained ankle so I could pull it though the train to an open seat. I also to find an open seat I had to limp through 6 different cars and no one would do anything about the healthy people sitting in the seats for people that either have disabilities or are injured and can't really walk(like me).
While when I took United while on crutches(I ride and train horses so its not uncommon for me to be on crutches) my friend/ride carried my luggage for me to check it and carried my laptop and purse for me to the TSA check-point. A TSA agent got a golf cart to take me and my bags to the waiting area, The person at the gate upgraded me to 1st class because there was an open seat in the 2nd row and carried my stuff down the gateway to the plane for me and a FA was nice and took my bags from him and put them under the seat for me so I wouldn't have issues getting my laptop out or anything from my purse. When we boarded the FA asked that the other passagers let me off 1st and carried my bags to the gate where another golf cart was waiting for me.
Brenda SFO Sep 10th 2008 12:28AM
The United crews treated me like gold after I had my knee surgery, and hobbled aboard on crutches...but then I truly have always had good experiences with United.
DoctorBob Sep 9th 2008 11:41PM
Wish they had trains across the Atlantic. Last trip I flew from Las Vegas to Detroit with a scream, shrieking rug rat behind me all the way. Changed planes for Amsterdam, thinking I could rest. Nope. Got seated next to a young German girl with a screaming, shrieking rug rat that screamed and shrieked all the way across the Atlantic Ocean. By the time I got to Amsterdam, I was so NOT in a good mood! I remember going to my hotel and collapsing in bed to get some rest, and hearing echoes of a screaming, shrieking kid in my head as I tried to sleep. They should make kid-free flights. I would pay extra.
Brenda SFO Sep 10th 2008 12:55AM
Doctor Bob, you aren't a Doctor of Pediatrics, are you?
Jim Loomis Sep 10th 2008 12:03AM
I, too, enjoy train travel and take the train whenever possible. Clearly, with $4.00 gas and the airlines cutting back drastically on flights, improved and expanded train travel should be an important option for the country's future transportation plans. Every other country in the world had that figured out years ago. But it will take commitment and a serious investment and that will NOT happen under a McCain administration. John McCain is on record favoring elimination of the federal subsidy for Amtrak, which would kill the railroad overnight. Furthermore, McCain has stated that his position is "non-negotiable." Personally, I find that position shocking. And depressing.
Brenda SFO Sep 10th 2008 12:55AM
Don't worry, he'll flip-flop (as usual) if the polls tell him to....just look at his Vice-President candidate!
Steven D. Sep 10th 2008 12:47AM
I've taken trains all over Europe and Japan, and I find it much more fun taking Amtrak than anywhere else. First off, every single time without exception I always meet interesting people while riding Amtrak. Perhaps it has something to do with Americans being more open here than elsewhere, but there's something about train travel in the US that brings people together in a way that air travel or trains in other countries doesn't. Also it can be fascinating to watch small town America pass by from a train window, which you don't see from an impersonal highway. Some train stations, and the surrounding towns, are snapshots of earlier eras when the train was more important to our country than it is now. But I agree that you usually can't count on Amtrak to get you somewhere on time! Best to go if you have an open and free schedule.
Jim, thanks for the insight. Yet another reason why I won't be voting for McCain this fall...
Steven D. Sep 10th 2008 7:26AM
I've taken trains all over Europe and Japan, and I find it much more
fun taking Amtrak than anywhere else. First off, every single time
without exception I always meet interesting people while riding
Amtrak. Perhaps it has something to do with Americans being more
open here than elsewhere, but there's something about train travel in
the US that brings people together in a way that air travel or trains
in other countries doesn't. Also it can be fascinating to watch
small town America pass by from a train window, which you don't see
from an impersonal highway. Some train stations, and the surrounding
towns, are snapshots of earlier eras when the train was more important
to our country than it is now. But I agree that you usually can't
count on Amtrak to get you somewhere on time! Best to go if you have
an open and free schedule.
Jim, thanks for the insight. Yet another reason why I won't be
voting for McCain this fall...
Secret Asian Man Sep 10th 2008 7:25AM
I wanna ride a train! :(
Other than light rails, the only thing close to a train I've ever been on was a Thomas The Tank Engine ride at an amusement park...
I wanna ride cross country, watching the sights and making friends and memories.
Joe Sep 10th 2008 7:24AM
I've only taken the train once in the US (New York to Philly) but I thought it was really enjoyable. I also take the TGV and DB trains in France and Germany; they are amazingly awesome. The newer DB trains have a speedometer in the end sections. It's fastening to see the meter hit 350km/h and not feel a thing.
As for getting help, I think it depends on the station and the time allotted. If they are understaffed and have to leave soon they probably will be brisk. There aren't so many conductors on the train, unlike passenger planes. Also, if you are injured and need the priority seat ask whoever is sitting in it to move. They knew they were wrong when they saw you coming and they are hoping you won't say anything (which you didn't) and move on.
Melissa in Boston Sep 10th 2008 12:00PM
I did ask in the 1st car and the girl just looked at me and said "I don't see a cast and your not in a wheelchair...and I can't move my large luggage and I'm traveling with my friends and can't move." I told one employee and she said that there have to be more seats and walked away, asked another for help with my bag but he ignored me. I guess the Boston-New York route just isn't well staffed or anything cause I've never really had a great experience with Amtrak.
Bill Sep 10th 2008 8:31AM
Lets see: Leave home at say 2pm. Get to the Columbus airport at 3pm for a 5:20 flight. Arrive Newark Airport at 7:20pm. Arrive at your New York destination at no later than 9pm the same day. Elapsed time: 6 hours.
Verses: Leave home at say 6pm, drive to Cleveland. Stay overnight there. Get up in time to catch a train at 6:20am in downtown Cleveland. Spend 13 hours on the train arriving New York at 7:40pm. Arrive at your New York destination at 8:00pm. Elapsed time: 26 hours.
Tell me again how 26 hours is better than 6 hours. The plane is cramped? Yes, for two hours. No food on the plane? Do you need food during a two hour flight? Longer trip from the Newark Airport to Manhattan verses Penn Station? Does that matter? You would have been at Newark Airport the evening before.
Don't get me wrong. I like trains and have been on most of Amtrak's routes, both short distance and long. This year I've ridden from Denver to San Francisco and from Philadelphia to Tampa on Amtrak. But I take the Amtrak long distance trips for the experience, not as transportation. When I need to get from A to B when A to B is longer than about 300 miles, there is no way Amtrak competes with air no matter how much one may like the experience. Want to see the sights en route and experience a different way to travel: by all means, take Amtrak. Want to get to New York from Columbis: fly.
Edwina Murray Sep 10th 2008 11:28PM
Perhaps you missed the part about visiting Grandma and Grampa for the evening before the trip. That is what made it worthwhile!
Jamie Rhein Sep 10th 2008 9:13AM
Bill,
True, if the price is right and the time goes well and you're in a hurry to get somewhere. But consider this:
Add in the family style ice-cream place my husband used to go to near Cleveland as a child for some research I'm doing, visit with my in laws who we don't see that often and take my son on an adventure he'll remember for a lifetime. He absolutely loved the train and it gave me time to slow down and really enjoy his company.
Also, who can say that flight to Newark won't be delayed? The last time my brother flew to Newark from Columbus when he visited me, the flight was delayed 8 hours, but not in Columbus. I think he was in Detroit. That's fun.
Plus you're talking $750 (which was the absolute cheapest flight) as opposed to $320 round-trip. Okay, throw in the $50 in gas to get to Cleveland and it's still much cheaper.
At the time I looked we could have spent over $900 for those plane tickets.
Luckily, we have the Cleveland contacts. Without them the train would not be much of an option which I think is a shame.