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Latino heartthrob kicked off Delta flight
You'd think famous people can get away with a bit of attitude, not on a Delta flight though. 18-year old Latino music heart throb Carlos Olivero recently got kicked off a Delta flight in Atlanta for not stowing his iPod. He was asked to switch it off and stow it for take-off; he obediently turned the device off, but refused to stow it. Next thing you know, a security team was called on board and he was escorted off the plane with his mother.
A bit far fetched I know: what's the big deal, he switched it off as told; not stowing it shouldn't have been made an issue. But, that's what you get for messing with flight attendants on Delta!
Part of Latin pop band Menudo, a group that both Ricky Martin and Marc Anthony used to be in, this little disobedience act with a Delta flight attendant may break or make his career. Will the girls love him for being a bad boy? Or will they demand a replacement?
See, your travel behavior can have life-changing consequences.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 7)
Heather Poole Jul 16th 2008 11:21AM
I can't imagine security meeting the airplane because an ipod wasn't stowed. Something else must have gone on here.
Heather Poole
a flight attendant
brett Jul 16th 2008 11:03PM
Sense 9/11 and national security gave a little power to flight attendants, the majority have become real butt holes.
terry Jul 17th 2008 6:24AM
I would have to agree with Ms Poole, there had to be more going on in this situation.
Sheynk Jul 16th 2008 4:18PM
I agree with Heather
Most of the time (United, Lot, American) attendants don't even care its on... much less stowed.
Robobagins Jul 16th 2008 7:21PM
Agreed. Something else went on here.
Jimmy G Jul 16th 2008 10:11PM
Hard to say if there was something else going on, but it seems lately that flight crews have a shorter tolerance for anything, so it's possible one called for security.
frequent flyer Jul 16th 2008 11:33PM
Listen Jimmy G. if you traveled as much as I do you would be amazed at the behavior that goes on at 40,000 feet in the air. It's like a bell goes off and the "no rules" sign goes on. Some people think it's their right to disregard any and all rules that are common knowledge. It's no wonder that flight attendant's don't all up and quit having to deal with "some" of the bullies who think that the prerequisite to fly is to violate the FAA safety rules. The job of a flight attendant is to keep us all safe. It's public knowledge that these men and women are under paid for the job they do; their job is NOT to give out pillowe/blankets. The average person does not see everything a flight crew member is responsible for. Muchless, having to put up with "some" of the attitudes and smart mouthed passengers. Flight crews DO NOT call security for the reason posted. It is quite obvious that this kid was abusing the system because he was a "heart throb" and felt the rules did not apply to him. So, Jimmy next time you fly check the people around you and see why "some" flight attendant's have become less tolerant. Could be that flight crews have had enough of "certain" behaviors that go without consequences and are against the rules they themselves have been taught.
Alice Jul 16th 2008 10:12PM
There are devices now that you can carry in your pocket and when you turn it on, it jams cell phones and ipods on 3 frequency bands. Go to E-Bay and type "cell phone jammer" in the search box. They cost around $200 to $250. They are very popular in Europe and most restaurants use them to prevent people from being rude and talking on them.
Joshua-James Pentz, III Jul 17th 2008 12:24AM
Touche !! Guest Relations Director for a seven million dollar a year restaurant. Cell phones do not belong in my dining rooms, and I do not want to hear any (your) conversations! What ever happend to privacy and self-respect?
Charles Jul 17th 2008 3:04AM
Those Cell Phone jammers will not work on iPods and they are illegal to sell or own in the United States. And you can face felony charges for using one, so I wouldn't recomend trying it.
Upset American Jul 17th 2008 12:34AM
Please know that flight crews are now employees of the United States government. Perhaps something did go on that we're not aware of, but the government is attempting to destroy the airline industry to curb the travel of Americans, and it's all geared toward creating enough fear in the public that we'll allow border patrol at all U.S. state lines complete with eye scans and ID cards (or implants, depending on what they can get our lame-ass congress to pass). This incident is just fodder for this fascist mill.
Beenthere Jul 16th 2008 10:19PM
Sorry. I disagree. I had a flight attendant on American harass me for not shutting my phone off while they were still boarding passengers. I was delayed because of their mistakes and I needed to make a call so someone would be there on the other end when I arrived When I pointed out the fact that passengers were still boarding and the reason for the call, she didn't apologize and continued to bother me during the flight. This despite the fact that I turned my phone OFF immediately complying with her demand.
Let's face it Heather. Some of your lot have a God complex and bully passengers and bend them to their will. I didn't yell at her, use profanity, etc. She just did it because she could. She arbitrarily imposed her will...and she enjoyed the power.
Tim Jul 17th 2008 4:36AM
To all of you who feel F/A's bully passengers by giving them directives and instructions. The vast majority of us loathe it. Mainly because we know that we are not taken seriously by passengers. But are you all aware that the flight attendant's primary responsibility onboard is the safety and security of the aircraft. No sorry..it is not serving soda pop! At any rate, monitoring the safety and security of the aircraft unfortunately encompasses making sure that passengers comply with all FAA regulations. FAA regulations are the law and as such all infractions can be punishable by a fine. Fines may be imposed on non compliant passengers and they can also be imposed on flight attendants who are not doing their job! I do not think that most passengers realize this. So the next time a flight attendant gives a directive , please comply graciously. SHe/he might be saving you (and her/himself) from a fine by an onboard FAA inspector. If you get some "attitude" from a flight attendant then it is probably because that particular directive has already been given most likely several times by way of an announcement. The vast majority of us try to keep a positive attitude and confrontation usually starts with a non compliant passenger or a very unreasonable request. And if you're unlucky enough to come across a flight attendant who got up on the wrong side of the bed (probably after only getting a few hours sleep in a dingy hotel room) try smiling at her or him and try to make her/his day. After all , we are not robots but indeed only human too.
Scott Jul 18th 2008 3:33PM
Tim, I think we all know that FA's are there to be nice to pax. That is beyond obvious to everyone who flies.
It's also why I drive on 500 mile business trips instead of flying now. There is nobody in my car to bark sensless orders at me and threaten me.
The same FA's in Europe who used to threaten people with arrest for not turning off a cell phone (using the utter rubbish that it "might interefere with navigation") no longer do on the flights that have in-flight cell towers because suddenly the airline is making a buck (ok 10 euro cents) and suddenly it won't destroy the plane anymore.
Beenthere Jul 20th 2008 3:26PM
Oh by the way Tim - this wasn't a safety issue. We were sitting at the gate and the plane was still being boarded. When I left the plane I told the flight attendant with American that I was going to contact the FAA about her behavior. She laughed.
Yoda Jul 16th 2008 11:02PM
I know that some flight attendants are power hungry and it very likely it happened this way. We the people are handing over too much power to flight attendants and security people in the airports.
frequent flyer Jul 17th 2008 12:08AM
Yoda, are you stupid or something??? Obviously, you do not have the slightest idea of what crew members are trained to do. They are there for your safety!! Not to take or even tolerate "your" attitude. You say flightcrews, as well as TSA have too much power? There must be something loose up in your head. For not for the flight crew, YOU would not have any type of security; planes could NOT operate. For your information, flight crews must endure the same security checks you do. You sound like one of those passengers who thinks the prerequiste for flying is that "the rules are for "everyone else but me" people! Obviously, you DO NOT fly much. Usually people who say the things like you posted are the ones flight crews have problems with. May we see MORE security take place on our planes/airport.
frequent flyer Jul 19th 2008 12:47AM
Yoda, are you stupid or something??? Obviously, you do not have the slightest idea of what crew members are trained to do. They are there for your safety!! Not to take or even tolerate "your" attitude. You say flightcrews, as well as TSA have too much power? There must be something loose up in your head. For not for the flight crew, YOU would not have any type of security; planes could NOT operate. For your information, flight crews must endure the same security checks you do. You sound like one of those passengers who thinks the prerequiste for flying is that "the rules are for "everyone else but me" people! Obviously, you DO NOT fly much. Usually people who say the things like you posted are the ones flight crews have problems with. May we see MORE security take place on our planes/airport. Muchless, having to put up with "some" of the attitudes and smart mouthed passengers. Flight crews DO NOT call security for the reason posted. It is quite obvious that this kid was abusing the system because he was a "heart throb" and felt the rules did not apply to him. So,Yoda, next time you fly check the people around you and see why "some" flight attendant's have become less tolerant. Could be that flight crews have had enough of "certain" behaviors that go without consequences and are against the rules they themselves have been taught.
Rizzo Jul 17th 2008 12:47AM
Being involved in the circuit court and flying several times a year for the past 30 years, I come across many many cases of lawsuits involving the airlines and passengers. I know full well the FAA rules and the laws involviing passenger safety.
rubin9460 Jul 16th 2008 10:37PM
Could have been the same JERK Delta flight attendant that was on a recent flight we took. He was awful to me and other passengers. Had I not been with my child I probably would have called him on it. As it was, I just wanted to get home and let it go. If they want their industry to succeed they need to go back to pleasant service!