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Galley Gossip: Flight Attendant Pet Peeve #3: You want me to do what?

You've packed the bag. Actually what you did was stuff it full, and then most likely you had to sit on it while you zipped...the thing...up...there! You did it, you actually got that thing closed! You feel good, you really do, because you are not going to pay that ridiculous checked bag fee for the life of you. No freakin way!
Then you dragged that bag to the car and somehow managed to get..the bag...inside...the trunk...there! You did it, and now you're off to the airport where you'll have to get...the bag..out of...the trunk. Now you're dragging that thing over to the airport shuttle bus.
Finally you're in the terminal where you pass all those losers standing in line to check their bags. It's your turn to go through security, so up...goes...the bag...there! It's on the conveyor belt and slowly moving to the other side. As you wipe the sweat from your brow, you meet the bag on the other end and yank...it off...the belt. Now you're off and running to the gate where boarding is already in process. Down the jet-bridge and onto the airplane you go, where miracle upon miracles, there's an available overhead bin right above your seat. Now, where's that lazy flight attendant?
"Excuse me, miss," you say, trying to get the attention of the one and only flight attendant in the cabin who is already busy trying to re-seat a family of four together. "Can you help me get my bag into the overhead bin?"
You want me to do what?
I'm looking at a bag, a very big bag, that belongs to a passenger, a passenger that looks a lot like me, and I'm a little confused here. You're not elderly. You're not an unaccompanied minor. Nor are you handicapped. You packed it, and somehow you managed to get it into the car, on the bus, and through the airport. But now, for some reason, you can't get it up into the overhead bin? The funny part is you and I both know that you knew you weren't going to be able to do this before you even packed the bag!
Okay, you see where I'm going with this, don't you?
Due to the fact that most bags are ROLLING onto the aircraft these days - not being carried - the bag situation has gotten a little out of control, particularly in the size and weight department, which is why, I'm sorry to tell you, I'm not going to be able to lift that enormous thing into the overhead bin for you. It's too heavy! For both of us.
THE NUMBERS:
- 1:50: That's 50 passengers per flight attendant. Nowadays flights are staffed with minimum crew, which is why, in most cases, you only see one flight attendant in the cabin during boarding. The rest are either setting up the galleys, greeting at the door, or in the terminal taking tickets.
- 1-4: Flight attendants work anywhere from one (if they're senior enough) to four legs a day (from anywhere up to 14 hours a day)
- 16 : The average number of days a flight attendant works a month. But ever since our pay was decreased by 30% most flight attendants are forced to work more hours and days to make up the pay. (Don't forget, one of our days is like two of yours, and we don't get to go home at the end of the day.)
- 145: There are AT LEAST 145 passengers on-board our smallest aircraft - the S80. The 777 can carry anywhere from 283-368 passengers
- Now add all that up: 1 (Flight Attendant - minimum crew, remember) X 4 (legs - the max) X 16 (days - the average) X 145 (passengers - the least amount) = an awful lot of passengers with bags that need lifting by flight attendants, resulting in an awful lot of flight attendants getting injured on duty. Not that that has anything to do with you...
What's that? Your little one would like to visit the cockpit while we're sitting at the gate? Certainly, come along with me, kiddo, and don't forget your camera! You'd like something to drink? I'll be right back with your (insert drink order here). You'd like me to help you find two seats together? No problem, I'll see what I can do after everyone is on-board and seated. You'd like a blanket? Let me go see if I can find one. You'd like me to check on your connecting gate? I'll call the captain right away and see if he's gotten an update. You want to know if I can suggest a good place to eat in the airport? Oh have you asked the right person! You'd like to know the football / basketball / baseball scores? I'll call the captain. Again. You'd like me to hold your baby while you go to the bathroom? Of course, hand that little princess to me! Maybe we'll even go for a walk so you can have a break. You'd like me to take a picture of you and your loved one? I'd love to! You'd like to know where we are right now? Calling the Captain. Again. What, someone fainted in your row and you think they're unconscious? I'll grab the medical kit along with the AED and page for a doctor right away! What, there's no doctor on-board? I'll start CPR now!
That, in a nutshell, is my job. That's what I'm there for. And I like being there for it. But lifting your bag into the overhead bin is not, nor has it ever been, a part of my job description, even though I work in the service industry. Oh I'll help you find a place for your bag, no problem. Of course I'll move things around in the bin to make room for your bag. I might even ASSIST you in lifting that bag, if it's not too heavy,into the bin. But the key word here is assist. As in team effort. As in WE can do it together. What I won't do is do it for you. Not unless you're elderly, handicapped, or an unaccompanied minor. Sorry, I do what I can to avoid injuring myself and going out on disability. Hey, like you, I've gotta pay the bills!
"But I've got a bad back!" passengers often cry when I test a bag to see how heavy it is. Yeah, and so does my mother who is also a flight attendant, who has had two back surgeries that took her out of work for two years because she lifted too many bags for too many passengers who should have checked them in the first place.
Look, It's not like you don't know you're too short, or too pregnant, or too frail, or your arm is too broken, or your back is too weak to lift your bag into the overhead bin before you come on-board the aircraft, right? I mean when I traveled as a passenger, I always checked my bags when I was pregnant. And I did it again when I had to hobble on-board the aircraft on crutches. And I still do it whenever I'm traveling with my son, which is pretty much once a month. It's just the responsible thing to do. 
Responsibility, is anyone responsible for anything anymore?
That's a question I once asked Mark Matteson, a passenger on one of my flights, who in turn handed me a book, Freedom From Fear, a book he'd written, a book that actually changed my life, a book about...you guessed it...responsibility. In other words it was a book about how to change your life for the better by not being a victim and taking responsibility for the things that happen to you. Taking responsibility for oneself is something I believe in passionately, it's a trait I admire greatly in people, and it's a trait I'd like to pass along to my two year-old son. Taking responsibility for oneself also includes taking responsibility for ones bag, the bag the self packed and brought on-board the airplane.
Honestly, I don't know what bothers me more, the fact that a passenger will come on-board and EXPECT me to lift their bag, or the fact that they actually get upset when I won't lift the bag. Like I mentioned above, unless the passenger is elderly, or an unaccompanied minor, or handicapped, AND / OR is traveling with a bag that is NOT heavy, I am not touching that bag. No way! And when I do lend a hand, rest assured I'm wondering to myself why the bag wasn't checked in the first place.
Responsibility, that's what I'm talking about.
In Jeffrey White's post, A note of Apology to the helpful, dedicated flight attendant out there, after he kind-of-sort-of apologized to flight attendants everywhere after scolding the Ryan Air crew for not helping a wheel-bound passenger be lifted up the stairs and onto the airplane (flight crews are not responsible, nor are they trained, to lift passengers up stairs and onto airplanes), he then went on to write, "I feel that many flight attendants won't help you these days to the degree they used to, say, 10 years ago. As one attendant, "Ann," puts it: "Bottom line, you pack it, you stow it. If you can't stow it, then check it.""
And the reason flight attendants won't help to the degree that they used to 10 years ago is because bags are now being rolled, not carried, onto the aircraft, resulting in much heavier bags. Don't believe me? Try lifting a few.
Responsibility, it's the word of the day, and that's all I'm going to say.
Now go read Mark's book!
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Reader Comments (Page 5 of 30)
Sherry Jul 17th 2008 6:57AM
Great Post and so true. Its time that inconsiderate people stop taking advantage of the people who are just trying to do their job, they are not servants!!! You packed it, you haul it! I hate traveling during the holidays too it is way out of control...Perhaps airlines should improve the handling and stowing of passengers bags so that when you land retreival is not a long process, and less bags are lost and damaged.
gus dell Jul 17th 2008 7:02AM
flying gives me explosive diarrhea!!
hm2henry Jul 17th 2008 7:05AM
Excellent commentary on the state of affairs relating to baggage. A couple of other pet peeves.....as a working flight attendant, do not....I REPEAT...DO NOT poke me with your finger, hand or anything else. I am not your personal poking bag. If I am close enough to you for you to poke me with your finger, I am close enough for you to simply ask me to assist you with whatever is so important.
The second thing is that, when you are talking to me.....or when I am asking for drink or meal orders.....TAKE THE DAMN HEADPHONES OUT OF YOUR EARS!!!!!
Laughing here.....my my, has my "people meter" run out......have a great day to everyone.
Chalou Jul 17th 2008 8:38PM
Oh. Thank you for address the "poking". I've had people pulling my skirt, padding my backside, poking, oh Lord...Please don't touch me. Call me, if you don't remember my name, miss will do. Or press the FA call button.
FYI: I must clarify a couple things here:
1) It's a FAA regulation the "only 2 carryons/PAX" and yes there is a size and weight limit. And I blame the gate agents and FAs who've let this get out of hand by being passive when people come onboard with too many bags or oversized bags. I personally will start monitoring & check PAX bags more now. Yes, that's part of my job description.
2) FAs are not trainded to lift bags, thus any subsequent injury the airline is not responsible for. For example, the whole crew might sit there waiting with a PAX for someone to push him/her even when there's a wheelchair sitting a the gate. Why? that's not part of our job description and we're not trained for that. Yes, at times I'm so ready to go home or the PAX has a tight connection It's tempting to do. But we don't. This PAX falls or anything, I'll get sued and the airline won't back me up and I may loose my job, etc.... It's the same logic people.
In the boarding announcement, it states that if you have trouble with storing your luggage, please refer to a FA and we would gladly check it to your final destination.
4) Understand that when you're on a plane, you are in a public place. Have some manners.
For the people who keep on saying to get another job if you don't want to lift bags. I hope I never see you or anyone with your mentality on my plane, because you lack comprehension. I bet you're the same ones would refuse to allow me to strore your oversized computer bag in the over bin when it doesn't fit underneath the sit. Thereby, putting others' safety in jeapordy. I love my job. I just don't like inconsiderate, irresponsible, rude, entitled, lack of common sense types whether at work or anywhere else.
5) It can't be overstated that FA are there primarily for your SAFETY. If it wasn't for that the airlines would have done without us already by instally a coke dispenser in the galley. They'd have an autmated machine to make the announcements. I guess the pilots could close and open the doors. Do you follow?
6) Some of you seem to thank that all FAs are air heads who couldn't get any other jobs and got stuck in this profession and should accept anything you do.
Well, let me clear that for you. It's not the case. We are all professionals who take pride in our work. We enjoy what we do. Not anyone can do it and we know it. A lot of us had success in previous professional professions (business, science, nursing, IT, etc). Some of us are students (I work 12 days out of the month and I'm a full time student). Some have their own business, their rich husband, etc.......
Let's keep it in context. Treating others kindly and a positive attitude have worked wonders for me. And please always remember, flight attendants are also passengers sometimes, and we have to adhere to the same rules and regulations set by the FAA and the airlines that you do.
Safe and Happy Flying.
rob Jul 17th 2008 9:45PM
Yeah, your people meter has definitely run out and you should get another job which you would actually be good at. If I pay $550 for a plane ticket, $15-30 for checked baggage, $2 for peanuts, $1 for soda, and we are in mid flight, bet your ass if I want to have earphones in my ears so I won't have to listen to you bitch, I will have earphones in my ears!! Maybe your time is up as a sky waitress and it's time to move on. More than likely I don't want to talk to you, I just want a drink maybe so when I say "coke" as you're passing out the drinks, just give me a friggin coke and not some stupid attitude about my earphones. I started posting on this board all in good fun, but some of the complaints you guys have are really irritating. Believe it or not, I'm overly nice to almost everyone in real life. I understand people have hard days, so I try to smile, say thanks, please, or whatever. A lot of times I don't get that kind of response. A lot of stewardesses are fed up with their jobs and dealing with people and it shows. You are one of those.
hm2henry Jul 18th 2008 12:26PM
Dear Rob,
Lighten up a whole lot please?
My comments were aimed at those of us in the industry who have been poked and prodded and have dealt with "the public" in that ways special to the airline industry.....meant simply as a humorous communication to fellow flight attendantds...I love my job, am very good at it......
the people meter reference was simply an insider joke.....this forum here.....appeared to be one where someone could make a comment in a humorous way and still get the point accross that working with the public in any capacity has its challenging aspects...no matter what industry one is in....yours included, whatever that might be.....
you are way way to into things.....sound very frustrated.....chill out....take it easy....enjoy life
gary Jul 17th 2008 7:14AM
Becky
Rememeber the saying "Until you have walked a mile in that persons shoes ?"
Heather
I am a frequent international travelor and i have total respect for all flight attendants. You do a very tough job. Last time i returned to the states i couldn't walk much because my kneee had given out. The flight attendantas on and off the groud were outstanding as usual. I fully support anything that will make your job easier and more enjoyable
I also had a situation once i opened a door for a lady at a department store. She took offense and called me every name in the book. When she was done i said "I'm sorry maam, it was my mistake i thought you were a lady." I walked away before she realized i had insulted her.
mandy Jul 17th 2008 7:19AM
ok so i dont understand, we have a thousand guidlines everywhere else in the airlines, airports, etc why not with the size and weight of these carryon/travel bags?
Etta Jul 17th 2008 7:22AM
Kuddos. I recently flew and the bags are non stop on the airplane. I know that having to wait to check the bags is a pain, and paying is a pain, but I stop, take a breath and do the right thing. I carry my purse and a carry on that I can put under my seat with my meds, water and reading material. The rest goes in my luggage that I check. I did have one instance where I was traveling alone with 4 small children and was given the permission for my daughter to go to the gate to get us on the plane, but deboarding in Indy, they would not help and I had to get the stroller and the baby and the diaper bag and the other three out to the lobby. I sure could have used an extra set of hands in that situation. But I agree with your post and I chose to fly with 4 small children so it was my decision, my duty. Thanks, but the people who read this are not usually the culprits, they are too busy...rushing.
Eleni Jul 17th 2008 7:42AM
I'm with Secret Asian Man (love the name!) I, too, send my bags a few days in advance through UPS. Yes, it may cost more, but the pure, sheer glory of not having to schlep through the airport with all that baggage, and not having to wait (I'm impatient & I know it, so I try to work with it best I can) not to mention, the ability to actually wear something a bit nice with actual low heels, is worth it every time. And allows me to bring just an oversized purse that I can stuff under the seat, so I don't have to disrupt others getting what I need, when I need it. (Like for earplugs, for instance!)
Plus, I figure if things ever got lost, I wouldn't know about it until I was already there, so the stress wouldn't be multiplied by the stress of flying.
Sharon Jul 17th 2008 7:21AM
I don't agree with the woman who wrote that a supposedly able-bodied looking man needs to step in and help you just to be chivalrous. The main point of this article is about personal responsibility. Don't ever pack more than you could personally handle yourself and assume that you'll find someone "chivalrous" to do your work for you.
Last year a "high maintenance" looking woman, wearing spiked heels and talking on a cell phone was trying to get a ridiculously heavy looking bag onto the rent-a-car bus.
She looked at my husband as if it was his obligation to help her, especially because she thought she was "hot". He's a mailman and happily helps his elderly or disabled customers carry their bags and
stuff all the time. But no way was he going to endanger his back just to help a woman who deliberately made herself helpless (spiked
heels), and who overpacked.
dmb21682 Jul 17th 2008 7:23AM
Get over it! We all have parts of our job that suck!
Marilyn Hanley Jul 17th 2008 7:34AM
Heather
This article is so over due. The airlines are doing everything right now to help their companies be profitable and seem to be putting safety on the back burner. I agree with some of the others that this problem could be nipped in the bud right at check in. The size and weight should be checked long before it even it gets to the plane. Why isn.t? May this should be a subject for your union rep to be responsible for checking into since it is a physical hazard to flight attendants. And also what about these ginormous bags in an emergency landing, flying through the aircraft. Thats gotta hurt!!!!!
Ann Jul 17th 2008 7:28AM
I fly 3-4 times a month and I can tell you that more than one plane was delayed while waiting for people to "handle" their luggage. Every flight I watch the elderly carting huge bags - and they will just stop in the aisle and wait until someone asks if they need help. In the meantime, lines back up. Pay to ship it or pay the baggage fee - but do everyone a favor and don't bring it onboard.
wendy Jul 17th 2008 7:37AM
What is the job description of a Flight Attendant? Other then breaking your back for idiot passengers who can't manage their own bags the rest of your post sounds like your job....
Maybe you are burnt out. I think most people respect FA, and look to them for needs that they cannot meet for themselves.... Would you want everyone getting their own drinks, pillows and taking care of their medical needs? EVERY job has demands we didnt sign up for. Deal or Leave!
mark Jul 17th 2008 7:39AM
Heather I love you.........every time I read your BLOG I am reminded why I love nthis job so much....you put such a light hearted spin on everything.
LawyerChick Jul 17th 2008 7:45AM
I recently had shoulder surgery that had me (able bodied, athletic woman) unable to lift my arms above shoulder height, and unable to carry much anyway, so even checking a bag would have been hard to get the bag on and off the belt. Then I ended up having several unavoidable business trips come up that I'd already postponed from the times I couldn't carry anything or dress myself.
I asked in another travel forum whether I should carry on a *light* rollaboard normally would be no problem for me, and ask for help carrying it on? You would not believe the range of comments - from, "i you can't handle it yourself then don't take it" (from mostly the male business travelers) to some very sensitive and thoughtful people who said, if you keep the bag light and ask a fellow passenger NICELY while explaining your temporary disability, someone will help you (this was the answer I got from most of the disabled travelers who fly frequently). There were many people who flamed me who didn't get that just checking the bag DIDN'T solve the problem, it only postponed it to the baggage carousel.
Ultimately, I got about 50-50 from the frequent travelers forums whether to check or carry on in my situation, though EVERYONE said, whatever you do, don't EXPECT or act like you expect help.
What did I do in the end?
2 trips I was going with other people - one of them was an overnight so I scrunched everything in a knapsack, asked my work colleague in advance if he'd be willing to help me, and everything was fine. Another, longer trip, had more luggage but again I asked my partner in advance if he'd be willing to help me (he made a face like, I can't believe you would even have to ask) and carried my bags everywhere. :) (I did let him use my Bose headphones on the flight...)
On the one trip I was truly alone and had unavoidable Luggage, I made sure I had booked transportation to drop off and pick up at the airport and that they would help me with my bags as far as they could. That left rolling the bag to the check in counter and picking it off the belt. Strangers did step in to help me, but I think it was in large part because I affirmatively tried to help myself first - pushing a rollaboard with one arm in a sling is not a pretty sight.
Anyway, I think that if there are situations where the travel is unavoidable and the bag issues are UNAVOIDABLE, it's up to the passenger to make sure that a) the situation really is UNAVOIDABLE and not just INCONVENIENT, and b) they're not making it worse by overpacking or copping an attitude that they EXPECT help.
Renee Jul 17th 2008 7:57AM
I totally agree with the Flight Attendant. However, most of them have become so disgruntal and nasty that I wouldn't ever ask them for any help. If you do get a smile it so fake. I have been in the Travel Industry for 25 years and let me tell you the flight attendants these days are nothing like the flight attendants in the 80's and 90's. It is only going to get worse and worse. Maybe they should be trained overseas on customer service skills. Sorry but it's truth.
Ron Jul 17th 2008 7:58AM
People carry heavy bags onto the plane because ther is a good chance if they check it will be lost
Marye Jul 17th 2008 8:02AM
I completely understand and agree with what you're saying -- Number one, I can't stand when people bring basically normal size suitcases on board and take up a whole overhead bin (checking your baggage is NOT that time consuming, difficult, or stressful), and Number two, I always bring small shoulder bags with me that can go under the seat in front of me.
Here's my only "but".....I don't expect the flight attendant to put my bag in the overhead bin when I'm in the first row (where you can't put it under a seat)....but once I got on a plane, saw I was in the first row, saw all the overhead bins around me full from the giant suitcases, saw the flight attendant find a spot and store not just one, but TWO attractive men's bags for them while they sat, and asked her if she could help me with mine. She pointed to a spot 5 rows back from me, and went about her business. I realize she was busy, but it was kind of insulting that she'd help those guys right before me, and then ignore me. Of course, when a flight attendant stores your bag for you and it's somewhere behind where you're sitting, most flight attendants will get the bags down and bring them to you before the mob of people get out of their seats and make it impossible to reach your bag if you're doing it yourself.