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Galley Gossip: Flight Attendant Pet Peeve #3: You want me to do what?

You've packed the bag. Actually what you did was stuff it full, and then most likely you had to sit on it while you zipped...the thing...up...there! You did it, you actually got that thing closed! You feel good, you really do, because you are not going to pay that ridiculous checked bag fee for the life of you. No freakin way!
Then you dragged that bag to the car and somehow managed to get..the bag...inside...the trunk...there! You did it, and now you're off to the airport where you'll have to get...the bag..out of...the trunk. Now you're dragging that thing over to the airport shuttle bus.
Finally you're in the terminal where you pass all those losers standing in line to check their bags. It's your turn to go through security, so up...goes...the bag...there! It's on the conveyor belt and slowly moving to the other side. As you wipe the sweat from your brow, you meet the bag on the other end and yank...it off...the belt. Now you're off and running to the gate where boarding is already in process. Down the jet-bridge and onto the airplane you go, where miracle upon miracles, there's an available overhead bin right above your seat. Now, where's that lazy flight attendant?
"Excuse me, miss," you say, trying to get the attention of the one and only flight attendant in the cabin who is already busy trying to re-seat a family of four together. "Can you help me get my bag into the overhead bin?"
You want me to do what?
I'm looking at a bag, a very big bag, that belongs to a passenger, a passenger that looks a lot like me, and I'm a little confused here. You're not elderly. You're not an unaccompanied minor. Nor are you handicapped. You packed it, and somehow you managed to get it into the car, on the bus, and through the airport. But now, for some reason, you can't get it up into the overhead bin? The funny part is you and I both know that you knew you weren't going to be able to do this before you even packed the bag!
Okay, you see where I'm going with this, don't you?
Due to the fact that most bags are ROLLING onto the aircraft these days - not being carried - the bag situation has gotten a little out of control, particularly in the size and weight department, which is why, I'm sorry to tell you, I'm not going to be able to lift that enormous thing into the overhead bin for you. It's too heavy! For both of us.
THE NUMBERS:
- 1:50: That's 50 passengers per flight attendant. Nowadays flights are staffed with minimum crew, which is why, in most cases, you only see one flight attendant in the cabin during boarding. The rest are either setting up the galleys, greeting at the door, or in the terminal taking tickets.
- 1-4: Flight attendants work anywhere from one (if they're senior enough) to four legs a day (from anywhere up to 14 hours a day)
- 16 : The average number of days a flight attendant works a month. But ever since our pay was decreased by 30% most flight attendants are forced to work more hours and days to make up the pay. (Don't forget, one of our days is like two of yours, and we don't get to go home at the end of the day.)
- 145: There are AT LEAST 145 passengers on-board our smallest aircraft - the S80. The 777 can carry anywhere from 283-368 passengers
- Now add all that up: 1 (Flight Attendant - minimum crew, remember) X 4 (legs - the max) X 16 (days - the average) X 145 (passengers - the least amount) = an awful lot of passengers with bags that need lifting by flight attendants, resulting in an awful lot of flight attendants getting injured on duty. Not that that has anything to do with you...
What's that? Your little one would like to visit the cockpit while we're sitting at the gate? Certainly, come along with me, kiddo, and don't forget your camera! You'd like something to drink? I'll be right back with your (insert drink order here). You'd like me to help you find two seats together? No problem, I'll see what I can do after everyone is on-board and seated. You'd like a blanket? Let me go see if I can find one. You'd like me to check on your connecting gate? I'll call the captain right away and see if he's gotten an update. You want to know if I can suggest a good place to eat in the airport? Oh have you asked the right person! You'd like to know the football / basketball / baseball scores? I'll call the captain. Again. You'd like me to hold your baby while you go to the bathroom? Of course, hand that little princess to me! Maybe we'll even go for a walk so you can have a break. You'd like me to take a picture of you and your loved one? I'd love to! You'd like to know where we are right now? Calling the Captain. Again. What, someone fainted in your row and you think they're unconscious? I'll grab the medical kit along with the AED and page for a doctor right away! What, there's no doctor on-board? I'll start CPR now!
That, in a nutshell, is my job. That's what I'm there for. And I like being there for it. But lifting your bag into the overhead bin is not, nor has it ever been, a part of my job description, even though I work in the service industry. Oh I'll help you find a place for your bag, no problem. Of course I'll move things around in the bin to make room for your bag. I might even ASSIST you in lifting that bag, if it's not too heavy,into the bin. But the key word here is assist. As in team effort. As in WE can do it together. What I won't do is do it for you. Not unless you're elderly, handicapped, or an unaccompanied minor. Sorry, I do what I can to avoid injuring myself and going out on disability. Hey, like you, I've gotta pay the bills!
"But I've got a bad back!" passengers often cry when I test a bag to see how heavy it is. Yeah, and so does my mother who is also a flight attendant, who has had two back surgeries that took her out of work for two years because she lifted too many bags for too many passengers who should have checked them in the first place.
Look, It's not like you don't know you're too short, or too pregnant, or too frail, or your arm is too broken, or your back is too weak to lift your bag into the overhead bin before you come on-board the aircraft, right? I mean when I traveled as a passenger, I always checked my bags when I was pregnant. And I did it again when I had to hobble on-board the aircraft on crutches. And I still do it whenever I'm traveling with my son, which is pretty much once a month. It's just the responsible thing to do. 
Responsibility, is anyone responsible for anything anymore?
That's a question I once asked Mark Matteson, a passenger on one of my flights, who in turn handed me a book, Freedom From Fear, a book he'd written, a book that actually changed my life, a book about...you guessed it...responsibility. In other words it was a book about how to change your life for the better by not being a victim and taking responsibility for the things that happen to you. Taking responsibility for oneself is something I believe in passionately, it's a trait I admire greatly in people, and it's a trait I'd like to pass along to my two year-old son. Taking responsibility for oneself also includes taking responsibility for ones bag, the bag the self packed and brought on-board the airplane.
Honestly, I don't know what bothers me more, the fact that a passenger will come on-board and EXPECT me to lift their bag, or the fact that they actually get upset when I won't lift the bag. Like I mentioned above, unless the passenger is elderly, or an unaccompanied minor, or handicapped, AND / OR is traveling with a bag that is NOT heavy, I am not touching that bag. No way! And when I do lend a hand, rest assured I'm wondering to myself why the bag wasn't checked in the first place.
Responsibility, that's what I'm talking about.
In Jeffrey White's post, A note of Apology to the helpful, dedicated flight attendant out there, after he kind-of-sort-of apologized to flight attendants everywhere after scolding the Ryan Air crew for not helping a wheel-bound passenger be lifted up the stairs and onto the airplane (flight crews are not responsible, nor are they trained, to lift passengers up stairs and onto airplanes), he then went on to write, "I feel that many flight attendants won't help you these days to the degree they used to, say, 10 years ago. As one attendant, "Ann," puts it: "Bottom line, you pack it, you stow it. If you can't stow it, then check it.""
And the reason flight attendants won't help to the degree that they used to 10 years ago is because bags are now being rolled, not carried, onto the aircraft, resulting in much heavier bags. Don't believe me? Try lifting a few.
Responsibility, it's the word of the day, and that's all I'm going to say.
Now go read Mark's book!
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Reader Comments (Page 30 of 30)
Jeff Dziatlik Sep 8th 2008 8:14PM
My wife and I have always checked all of our bags when we fly. You watch all these goofs trying to stuff a bag into a confined space above your seat, hoping that it doesn't fall on your head. It's time for the airlines to limit the size of these carry ons to something along the lines of a small backpack. Or give those of us the privilage of entering and exiting the plane first if we have no carryons. It is worse now since the airlines are charging fees for checked bags. Charge the fee for ALL bags and maybe people will stop trying to stuff these huge bags into compartments. Just SAY NO to carry ons!!!!!
Angel Sep 9th 2008 1:46AM
Let's see, wonder why we all overpack our bags these days? Why do we carry on as much as we possibly can? For me its because the airlines lose my luggage time and time again. I cannot wait 24 or 48 hours for my luggage to arrive--if at all. The only way to be sure I arrive with what I need, be it a short trip or a long one, is to carry it on the plane with me. It doesn't have anything to do with having to pay $15 or whatever to check a bag. The airlines have brought this on themselves with inefficiency, poor service and abominable treatment of their customers, and I don't feel sorry for them or their employees. I think it is "ridiculous" and unfair for you or anyone associated with an airline to criticize anyone for carrying on too much. There are several and good reasons.
kkimpl Nov 21st 2008 2:03AM
Lets see a raise of hands on who does NOT understand what this blog is about... IT IS NOT a flight attendants job to stow your bags. Stop complaining about how much your tickets cost and what you do or do not get from the working crew. Those that don't like the complaining then leave the site. After all, it is titled pet peeves.....
LrdSlvrhnd Nov 24th 2008 11:34AM
First, I gotta say, all these people saying "if you don't like your job, find another one" amuse the heck out of me. It's clear that Heather DOES love her job... just not every single aspect of it. Who does? As for the ones complaining about people in the service industry not wanting to do any service... *I* say, if you don't like her complaining about the parts she doesn't like... don't read the posts titled "Pet Peeves," which are clearly going to be, y'know, things she doesn't like about the job. Or just don't read any of them... Flight attendants aren't "waitresses of the skies," and they're not certainly not nannies or baggage handlers. Watching babies and schlepping luggage isn't in their job descriptions; honestly, we should be grateful that passing out drinks and (occasionally) food still is.
They're there for one reason: Passenger safety. That's how the job started, that's why it's still a job, and anything beyond that is just a bonus. You start choking on a peanut, I bet you're gonna be glad that there's somebody around who's almost guaranteed to know the Heimlich maneuver. As for the rest of it? Just be glad they're there so you don't have to sit down in a pile of somebody else's garbage from the last flight, at least there's a chance it got thrown away while the FA was walking down the aisle with a garbage bag.
I'm not a regular flier, but I do fly 2-3 times a years, and when I was younger I regularly accompanied my mother on business trips (luckily for the people around me, I was the kid with his nose buried in a book the whole flight). I've seen FAs that run the gauntlet from totally pleasant to totally bitchy... and I've seen them go from one end to the other, and ALWAYS because of passengers.
Reading these blogs, Heather has struck me as an FA who usually has a smile on her face... even if it's forced, which is still better than glares I've gotten from other FAs as I'm boarding... at times, admittedly, possibly due to the two roll-ons AND the backpack I've got, but at least one of those belongs to my mother with walking and balance issues. Anyway, I'd rather have Heather vent here than on a plane... and about types of people rather than TO a person who just happened to be the camel-breaking straw. As I said, who can say they love every single thing about their job? The only difference is, Heather has a place to write about it, and I say kudos to her for doing so.
And until a baggage handler gets a blog here, I'll continue overstuffing my suitcase and carrying on small bags that clearly fit... even if I do occasionally have to carry three of them on! *g*
Madison Nov 25th 2008 11:12AM
I am a flight attendant..flying quite awhile..and the comments about what we used to do 10 years ago as opposed to today..we still did not put bags in the overhead for passengers 10 years ago...we are flight attendants..we are not your bag handlers nor your sounding board about what happened on your flight 3 months ago...and please please please if you are traveling with someone (mothers and fathers listen up), check your ticket or online pass that you downloaded 2 weeks ago or more...If it says you are in 21 A and your wife 23 F and your two or three or four children 7A ,4C and 12 E...well guess what...YOU ARE NOT TOGETHER...try doing something about this before you are on the aircraft. It is called responsibility..
And yes airlines are charging for everything these days..but the flight attendants are not the people who made the decisions...we just have to abide by them and do what the company morons say...and making 40-50 % less than we were making 5years ago...so check out the inflight magazine..(yeah they take everthing else off but not that little gem..the CEO's have to spread their propaganda somewhere)..the name of the person to write and complain is in there...the flight attendants are NOT the people to compain to..we can do nothing...believe it or not..we probably complained loudly already about the same thing to management...
And for all of you who are saying.."well if you don't like it get another job"...why? Why don't YOU stop complaining? Stop bringing on the bag the size of Montana...realize alot of airplanes were designed before the bags were huge..before roll boards that even 4 year old children have now...it is once again called responsibility..we acceptt that our responsibility will be to serve you what we have. And hopefully you will never see ,or experience what we are really trained to do...save your life in an emergency...
mtkalayovr Jan 28th 2009 10:19AM
this was too funny as a long time F/A I can relate the best one is when I had newer F/A from my own airline dead heading home asked me to put her bags up for her. I paused, looked at the bag then asked her if she packed them, when she said that she had i told her that then she could put them up her self.
Karen Jan 28th 2009 2:12PM
I just found this site today, although I knew such sites were out here, I'm now getting a chance to read them because I sit at home now on disability after ruining my right elbow, my neck is now fused and I suffer daily with a bad back from lifting all those bags that everyone crammed everything they owned into it and expected us to put it up for them. What was I thinking back then? I wish I had thought to say "you brought it, you stuff it!". I was a F/A for 24 yrs for a major airliner. Heather, maybe your blog site can enlighten some of these people flying today! You go, girl! Fly safely!
dave Jul 26th 2009 5:02PM
The dash for the overhead bins on flights has gone from ridiculous to out of control. Are passengers with more than then allowable limit and size to blame? Or are the airlines who permit it to blame?
I vote airline. There's almost always a box or frame by the gate with a sign stating the bag needs to fit into it or be check. In all my years of flying I have yet to see anyone be asked to verify the size of their bag in that box.
How about this as a solution....make passengers adhere to that policy and ensure everyone has a fair shot at the overhead storage.
On a recent flight, a guy comes on the plane as the last passenger. He's towing a large bag (it wouldn't have fit in that box in the gate area) and starts to put on a show for the whole plane expressing how upset he is there's no room for his bag. He opens the overhead above me and asks if the computer bag is mine and I say yes. He begins to take it out and tells me it can fit under the seat in front of me.
I was shocked but politely told him I already had a small carryon under the seat in front of me and the one in the overhead was my allowable bag and that I'd paid the $15 to check my luggage and I was not about to give up my legroom by shoving my other bag under the seat to for someone who should have check his luggage.
Had the airline enforced their own size limitation rule, there would have been plenty of room for all. Further, had they enforced their own rule about how to place the bags in the overhead (straight in vice sideways) there would have been more room.
Who's to blame....passengers for bringing on more than is allowed or airlines for not enforcing their own rules.
Let's wait for the fight to breakout over overhead space, get someone hurt and/or arrested....then decide how to fix things
Laura Feb 13th 2010 7:11PM
As a former college student and a person who has also moved to another country, I found it rediculous I had to pay to be able to have just ONE bag on an airplane while moving from one coast to the other and also to a different country. So you can bet the days I went on the plane I stuffed as much as I could into my carry on, so I could keep my luggage costs down... as I am sure I am not the only one who would do something like that. As I was boarding the plane (both times), there was always a line behind me, and a flight attendant would be watching me struggle as I would stow my carry on overhead. Instead of the flight attendants helping me with the bag, fellow passengers would. Flight attendants are on a plane to make traveling a little more easier, more pleasant, and safer, if a passenger hadnt helped, I am sure I wouldn've dropped a carry on on someone's head. Not safe. It really truely pisses me off when flight attendants refuse to help stow overhead storage, and then stare at you and give you a smug grin. I'm not tellilng you to do it by yourself, just grab an end and asssist.
darren Aug 28th 2011 4:31PM
Well a few things differ in Canada. We have a ratio of 1 to 40 for FA to passenger ratio, not 50. Canadian FA's are paid way more. As for the "you pack it, you stow it" comment, I agree 110 %. I'm only 27 and have been hurt lifting a bag before. Due to that damn bag i couldn't lift an heavy weight at the gym for a bit.
thanks for flying folks, see you in the sky
Marc Sep 7th 2011 8:20PM
If the bag is too heavy for YOU to lift YOUR own bag....check it. It is not the crew's responsibility to take care of YOUR crap. As for the long days the crews work.....They only get paid for the time they are in the aircraft from gate to gate. So the 14 hour days equate to maybe 6 hours of pay? As for all of the haters; don't compare jobs when you have no idea of what the job entails. I am not a Flight Crew member, I just travel alot and witness the crap they put up with. As for a "Service Industry", really???? When the Airplane is landing with a wheel on fire and you are wetting your pants, making your frightened call to whoever loves you and they are trying to make sure you can get off the plane in one piece tell me it is a service industry! People are too lazy to take responsibility for themselves. OH and don't let me forget they have to be a referee for the Adult that complains about a 4 year old kicking their seat instead of asking the childs parent to cut it out. Just like elementary school...."Flight Attendant, Flight Attendant, I am not enough of a man to politely ask the people behind me......" Spare me. People are always looking for someone else to 1. Do things for them 2. Take the blame for your mistakes (cause you didn't do anything wrong) 3. Beat the system for your advantage (hmm, not pay a checked bag fee)
It is amazing how the people that need to have wheelchairs to get on the plane, do not need them to get off the plane (because they would have to wait until eveyone else gets off)....thank you "Jetway Jesus". So all of the people bashing the author......try doing her job and dealing with people just like yourself.