Plane Answers: 767 winglets, flight directors and oceanic flying
Welcome to Gadling's feature, Plane Answers, where our resident airline pilot, Kent Wien, answers your questions about everything from takeoff to touchdown and beyond. Have a question of your own? Ask away!Paul asks:
Hi Kent,
My question is about winglets. We see most of the RJ's have winglets and many airlines are either retrofitting or purchasing their 757's and 737's to include winglets.
If these are such a performance enhancer and fuel saver, why don't we see winglets on 767 and 777 aircraft? There are many of these aircraft in the air today so one might assume an opportunity for fuel reduction and cost savings is being lost. What's your take on this?
That's a very good point, Paul. I asked about the 777 a few years ago and I've been told that the wing design on the large Boeing won't accept winglets. I'm not sure if it couldn't handle them structurally or if the wing was already efficient enough that winglets wouldn't help.
I do know that the wingspan of a 777 was a significant concern for airlines when they were planning the gate spacing before the airplane was delivered. Since the 757 with winglets has a 10 foot longer span, I would think it might be a problem with our infrastructure at certain airports.
American announced last year that they'd be retrofitting each of their 767's to include winglets. We should see the first one modified by next year. Here are a few pictures of the first airplanes being converted.
Why didn't they retrofit these airplanes sooner? Back in 2000, the 737 winglet conversion was just under $1 million dollars. With the recent jump in fuel prices, I'm sure the kits are a bit more expensive, but the 4% fuel savings would easily offset the conversion price.
Hi Kent -
Can you explain the flight director and how it is used by pilots?
Thanks, Ryan.
Sure, Ryan.
A flight director gives us information on the pitch or roll attitude needed during a particular phase of flight. It's part of the autopilot system.
You can think of it as an indicator (made up of either "V" bars or crosshairs depending on the airplane) that shows the autopilot or even a pilot who happens to be hand-flying the airplane which way to turn and how much bank or climb is needed to turn, climb, speed up or slow down the airplane.
It's kind of like having a person beside you saying, "OK, pitch it up to three degrees and bank 25 degrees and roll out on a 090 degree heading." In level flight the flight director will show you the attitude required to hold an altitude.
Some pilots prefer to turn the flight director off and fly the airplane in a raw data mode, which means that they'll decide when, where and how much they'll pitch and roll.
Here's a picture of the common "V" bar flight director displaying a turn:

And here's the attitude indicator with the flight director off:

Hi Kent,
I had a question regarding oceanic travel. I am of the understanding that pretty much all traffic between North American and Europe goes through the North Atlantic Tracks using HF radio for positioning reports (or ACARS). How do aircraft going from North America to Africa, or S America to Europe cross the pond? Are there separate tracks/ oceanic FIRs for those specific routes? There are similar tracks for trans-pacific routings to Japan and Australia too correct?
Matt
Matt is talking about the five parallel routes that go across the Atlantic. These routes change twice a day to take advantage of favorable winds–once for the westbound morning/afternoon arrivals and again for the eastbound evening/night flights.
This track system is unique to the North Atlantic. If your flight happens to be going from New York to South Africa, there's a chance you won't be on the track system at all, but you will be flying what's called a random route.
If this random route happens to cross one of the tracks, the airplane will be restricted from flying above FL 290 (Flight Level 290, or 29,000 feet essentially).
In the Pacific, there are tracks, but they don't change on a daily basis and they're made up of named waypoints instead of the coordinates that define the North Atlantic tracks.

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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Jul 12th 2008 @ 10:35AM
Neil said...
Interesting post Kent!
With regards to the winglets on the 777, I was under the impression that all 300ER series were factory fitted with raked winglets. I may be wrong though.
Thanks
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Jul 12th 2008 @ 1:02PM
Kent Wien said...
Good point Neil,
You're right, the ER version's of the 777-200 and -300 have raked wingtips, though they're not exactly winglets.
Here's a great discussion on Airliners.net:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/109076/
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Jul 13th 2008 @ 7:49AM
Neil said...
Ah, I see.
Thanks Kent!
Jul 13th 2008 @ 7:47PM
David Monch said...
Is the route that an airline would fly, say Toronto Canada to London ( UK) usually the same each flight ?
How much of this route is over water ?
At what point in the route is the destination's current time used ?
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Jul 14th 2008 @ 11:40AM
Dave said...
Kent,
I notice that the 747-400's Japanese domestic variant (the -400D) has no winglets. Why? Would the added weight of the winglets offset the fuel saving on such short routes?
Dave
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Jul 14th 2008 @ 9:16PM
ZF said...
Dave,
That is probably a 747-300 which has the extended upper deck but no winglets. The 747-400F has the short upper deck but it does have winglets. The -300 is a 3 person cockpit, it has the flight engineer position.
ZF
Jul 15th 2008 @ 6:51AM
Dave said...
Hi ZF,
I'm thinking of these ones:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/All-Nippon-Airways/Boeing-747-481D/0602174/L/
Dave
Jul 14th 2008 @ 9:17PM
ZF said...
Or...... You could be right, it could be a -400 with no winglets. I have never heard of such but it could be....
ZF
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Jul 17th 2008 @ 9:05PM
pauls98 said...
Hey Kent,
Thank you very much for answering my winglet question!
Paul
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