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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
7-09-2008 @ 9:35AM
Emma Leigh said...
There was a no win on this one. Let's suppose the employee did decide to NOT follow company policy and tried to carry this woman on board. Now let's suppose he dropped her - and killed her. Who is going to lose everything? Thats right - the employee who failed to follow company policy. The company will dodge the lawsuit because the employee was expressly told not to try to lift any passengers.
Let's even suppose he didn't drop her, but ripped out his back so bad he can't work anymore. The company will deny benefits because he failed to follow policy.
It may seem rude - but you must be able to accomdate yourself. Her issue should be with the company that failed to provide the lift. Not the airline.
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7-09-2008 @ 5:48PM
SOPHIE said...
Emma Leigh, you forgot this: the couple had placed an order, and WAITED 3 DAYS for it to show up when it didn't in time (after I'm sure, ordering it AGAIN AND AGAIN) for a lift for her. All this wouldn't have happened if THE AIRLINE wouldn't have messed up in the first place, and then hadn't messed up further in not rectifying it. If I were the manager there, I would have made it a pririoty to find a DEVICE to do the job. In other words, the Brits are becoming as selfish and INCOMPETENT IN THEIR JOBS ARE WE ARE!
7-10-2008 @ 2:48PM
june said...
They could have used the hydro lift.......duh...they had one. they just didn't have it there. Airlines are going waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overboard in their ability to save themselves, they are hurting their own business.
7-09-2008 @ 6:51PM
Teri said...
Emma,
I don't think you and I read the same story here! The story I read didn't indicate who dropped the ball that was to deliver the lift necessary to get this lady on the plane. The version I read stated that Jo Heath made all of the necessary arrangements when she bought her ticket. So either Ambulift or Ryanair dropped the ball. Company policies should consider the customer service when written and if the employee has a heart, they would have contacted management when this came up. Shame on Ryanair. They really humiliated this poor couple. Then added insult to injury with a $200 voucher!!! Common sense would say this poor couple would not use Ryanair again. Certainly, Ryanair would have known this. They may as well have issued a million dollar voucher because these folks won't want to sell out and use this airline ever. I would literally wipe my butt with the $200 voucher and deliver it to the upper management of Ryanair.
Another example of American superiority. The ADA would be advocating on behalf of the Heaths. Wow is this terrible.
7-09-2008 @ 7:14PM
Kay said...
Sophie,
You are wrong when you said the couple waited 3 days for the lift after ordering it over and over agin but it never showed up. that is totally wrong information. You need to go back and read the article again. The couple ticketed for a flight and when ticketing they requested the ambulift be there waiting for them to assit the wife into the aircraft. When they got there the lift was not there so they asked the flight attendants for help. Flight attendants are NOT allowed to step off the aircraft during passenger boarding for safety reasons of those passengers who are currently sitting on the aircraft. Also flight crews are not trained in the proper way of lifting passengers up and down stairs .
That is why there are assiting devices made for airplanes like an ambulift to assist the passenger who have disabilities or mobility problems. If the airline does not invest in assistance devices then they must train agents in proper lifting and handeling assistance of disability passengers into the airplane. After the device was not there and they obviiously have no trained agents to assit in lifting the flight needed to take off so the airline offered to rebook the couple on the next departing flight. The next departing flight was scheduled to leave 3 days later. The couple did not want to wait 3 days for a new flight and they probably felt they could not wait 3 days for the next flight so the husband decided he would carry the wife up the stairs himslef. That was a very very dangerous situation the husband put the wife in as well as himself. He could have fallen backwards or fallen forward and dropped the wife off his shoulder and back causing the wife to break her kneck and back even breaking his own back or kneck. No flight is worth taking that chance of putting yourself in that position. The husband should have NEVER decided to do that but the airline DOES share fault in putting the couple in that situation because the airline DOES have a responsiblity to assure that dissibilty passengers have a way of boarding the airplane. The airline MUST provide an assistance device or trained agents to assit disabilty passenger into the plane it's the law. Jefferey Wright is correct in saying what could the airline do at that point but offer to rebook the couple if there was no assistance device available and no trained agents available but passengers on the plane should NEVER EVER offer to assist lifting a passenger into the or out of the plane UNLESS it is in an event of a emergency evacuation ONLY and the passengers has agreed in advance to be an able body assistant.
The author of this article, Jeffery White is wrong in making such a broad statement when he says "Everybody kows that fllight crews these days will not help you to lift a bag into the overhead compartments, even if you are a 90 year old woman" I just hate when people write these articles when they notice an experience on a flight by one crew and make an inclusive statement to include ALL crews as if they have first hand knowledge of EVERY crew member in the industry. I am a flight attendant for one of the largest regional airline in the US and I am ALWAYS assisting my passengers with their bags, even offering every passenger a pillow and blanket at the start of the flight as well as asking each passenger if the cabin temperature is comfortable for them so once that flight starts they are feeling comfortable even before I start a beverage service. I consider that plane my house and gust that come on board always get great hospiltality when visiting my house and I actually tell my passengers that at the beginning when I welcome them onboard. The flight crew members are always the first to get a bad rap from bloggers and media people regardless of what the situation is. I wish some of these bloggers and media people would start to recognize the many dedicated, very customer service friendly flight crew members out there who work very hard to make their passengers feel RELAXED, RESPECTED and GREATLY APPRECIATED during their flight as much as they love to rag on the problems they find with the few bad apples that are out there because they have grown discouraged at always being vilianized. My employee file which is full of positive customer comments and appreciation letters are proof there are many caring and dedicated flight crew members out there who are not just going through the motions but actually giving GREAT customer care to their passengers.:)
7-09-2008 @ 7:26PM
Maria said...
Are you kidding me, "she is to accomodate herself." In fact she did, she order for a "reasonable accomodation" and the airline fail to furnish a very simple request. The request was deemably reasonable. Of course, it is the responsibility of the airline to ensue safe passage for all passengers. However, people with disabilities are still lacking the respect. I certainly would challenge the ethics and heartless airline employees and corporate headliners on how they failed to even find out where the lift was. A simple phone call to the supplier and words of urgency to get the lift would have cost the airline what 25 cents.
7-09-2008 @ 7:27PM
Steve said...
Her issue should be with the company that failed to provide the lift. Not the airline. ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!
7-14-2008 @ 7:37PM
Donna said...
Wrong,wrong, wrong you are. In the United States, The Americans with Disabilities Act states that areas of public accomidation and transportation MUST have access for those in need. The U.K has something similar and the laws must be adhered to. Litlle if any lifting should be required if the airline were in compliance and had the proper equipment.