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Plane Answers: Do challenging airports require special training for pilots?
Welcome to Gadling's feature, Plane Answers, where our resident airline pilot, Kent Wien, answers your questions about everything from takeoff to touchdown and beyond. Have a question of your own? Ask away!Mike asks an interesting question:
Hi Kent, I know you've probably seen the video going around on YouTube of the 757 landing at Tegucigalpa, and also a great video of the landing from the cockpit. I was wondering if landing at a challenging airport like that involves any special requirements. Is the Captain the only one allowed to make that landing for example?
Great question, Mike. Especially in light of the recent accident of a TACA A320 that overran the end of the runway killing five of the 135 people on board. As a result of this accident, the Tegucigalpa airport is restricted to aircraft with 42 seats or fewer. For the next two months, San Pedro Sula will pick up the slack until the Soto Cano Air Base is ready for commercial traffic.
Prior to this accident, our airline required a few things for pilots going into TGU. First, we use computer based training aids, complete with the local ATC audio along with a detailed layout of the potential hazards and the technique needed to safely fly the approach and landing.
Next, the captain had to go fly there with a check airman (instructor) who would sit in the right seat for the checkout. The captain was required to make a landing on runway 02. If the other runway was in use, the check airman would come back to TGU with the captain on another trip.
Also, the captain was required to fly into TGU within the past 180 days. If the pilot hadn't landed there in within 180 days, a check airman would again be required before they could fly there again.
Co-pilots must have observed one takeoff and landing there from the jumpseat before flying a trip to TGU. And yes, Captains are required to make all landings into TGU. The only such airport we operate into with that requirement. Both pilots must have at least 75 hours of flight time in the particular type of airplane as well.
We have seven cities in Central and South America that require special qualifications. Other airports may require varying levels of training and qualifications, but none are as extreme as the Tegucigalpa, Honduras example.

It's easy to see why these requirements exist. Those two videos show just how challenging the TGU approach to runway 02 can be. The runway is 6132 feet (1869 m) and the airport sits at an elevation of 3300 feet, which makes the approach speed a bit faster. To give you an idea, the Laguardia airport is 7000 feet long with a field elevation of 22 feet. So Tegucigalpa was likely the most challenging in our system.
Unfortunately, I've never had the opportunity to fly there. And now it looks like most large jets will be prevented from landing there, so I doubt I'll ever get the chance.
Finally, as a side note, the person on the ground who took the video of the landing emailed me a link to it just a few days after he uploaded it. I looked up the pilots and sent them the link as well. Later that month the captain and co-pilot met this cameraman, a flying enthusiast who's now training to be a pilot, for dinner. He also provided the pictures above and below for this post. Thanks for the photos and the video, Enriques!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
enrique Jun 6th 2008 6:36PM
Hi Kent, Enrique here,,,
Im so sad by the accident of the Taca 320 that happened. The airport is closed for Boeing,Airbus and McDonnel Douglas planes that used to fly, until further notice , most likely forever. I have been trying to contact fellow AA pilot S. Stache who grew up in TGU and certainly is well known at the airport, he must know a little bit more info regarding the accident.
As of right know the rumors are the plane landed half-way down the runway, which was wet. So you can kind of guess more likely what the official conclusion is gonna be. Witnesses also confirm that.
Too bad they are closing the airport , Ill never get to fly as a pilot there, and everyone will need to travel 180 kilometers NW to get an international flight...
I will miss flying into TGU cause it was so much fun,,, at least for me...
Heather Jun 6th 2008 6:53PM
So what has been, for you, the most challenging airport to land at? And is LGA as bad as everyone says?
Heather
Gareth Jun 6th 2008 7:17PM
Hi Kent
What with Kai Tak shutting and now TGU they are taking all the 'fun' out of your job. Next thing you know they will come up with some sort of gadget to aid landings in poor vis conditions.........:-)
Paolo Jun 11th 2008 12:56AM
Very interesting info. Thanks.
The one correction to the info is: The pilot and two (VIP) passengers on TA 390 died. Sadly, two 21-year-old guys died in one of the cars squashed below the aircraft. So five in total died, but only three were onboard.
Ruthann Jun 7th 2008 7:38PM
Pity about that.. I'd hoped to stand on that hill one day and get a shot to equal or beat Enrique's...!
mike Jun 9th 2008 7:12PM
tegus ... back in the late 70's i flew out of there and had no problems. upon arrival taca captian fernando soto handled a 737 as if it was childs play. i also flew the 737 out of santa ana, burbank and south lake tahoe but flying the F4U Corsair out of tegus was a dream come true!
GCNorton Jun 11th 2008 12:46AM
Re challenging airports add Saba, Netherlands Antilles
to the list (SAB).
Yrausquin Airport covers a relatively large portion of the small island of Saba. Some aviation experts are of the general opinion that the airport is one of the most dangerous in the world, even though no major tragedies have happened at the facility. The airport's sole runway is marked with an X at each end, to indicate to commercial pilots that the airport is closed for commercial aviation.
The danger arises from the airport's physical position. It is flanked on one side by high hills, and on the other side and at both ends of the runway by cliffs dropping into the sea. This creates the possibility that an airplane might overshoot the runway during landing or takeoff and end up in the sea or on the cliffs.
Although the airport is marked as a non-commercial facility, airlines are able to land there by obtaining waivers from the Netherlands Antilles' Civil Aviation Authority.
source Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juancho_E._Yrausquin_Airport
Gary
NW DTW
GCNorton Jun 11th 2008 1:39AM
I should add that I have been to Saba quite a few times
and have always arrived on a sail boat.
Airliners.net large image of SAB here
http://www.airliners.net/photo/-/-/0723905/L/