Plane Answers: How to become a pilot at 40 years old
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My question is simple. What do you think is the best method to learn to become a commercial pilot for someone in their very late thirties. Do you think that it's better to go through a college or go through an airline company that offers training.
Currently I'm overseas fighting with the military and I have about 6 month's left before I come home. I know that this is what I want to do, can you help me?
Larry.
Hi Larry,
First off, thanks for everything you're doing for us overseas. My hat's off to you and I hope to be able to buy you and many others a drink when you finally get home.
The following applies to those living in the United States. I can't speak with any authority as to how it's done in other countries.
I'm also in my late 30's, and if I had to do it over again at this age, I might lean towards going to a flight school near my home or perhaps in Florida. Some of these schools can give you a great deal of flight time in a short period so you'll finish up your ratings sooner. In the long run, this is probably the most economical way to go, but it will involve some self motivation on your part. To find a fight school near you, take a look at www.beapilot.com.
Another option that you mentioned is an Ab Initio school that takes you from zero time to a job interview with a regional. This could be an option for you, but they can be expensive and there are certainly no guarantees you'll be hired.
The question is, do you have any college education behind you? Most of the majors require a 4 year degree--even if it's in something other than aviation or engineering--but as the pilot pool dries up, they may waive this down to 2 years. The regionals don't always have this requirement, though.
Keep in mind you'll need to get the following ratings: Private, Instrument, Commercial, Multi-Engine and perhaps your Certified Flight Instructor. And you need to do this as quickly as possible. You could probably accomplish much of it in a year, if you worked at it full time. I managed to go to a university while learning to fly on the side, and as a result, it took 2 1/2 years to get the above ratings on my license. A lot of the colleges such as Embry-Riddle and Daniel Webster take the full 4 years to get to the above ratings. That might be an option for you, but I should warn you, it IS expensive.
Finally, after getting those ratings, you'll still need to build up your flight time by either instructing or some other job that will help you gain some more experience. Some pilots tow banners, perform traffic watch duties for radio stations or fly power line patrol aircraft. Now that the retirement age has been raised from 60 to 65, you're effectively 5 years younger than you may have thought. So late 30's isn't really so late if the airlines are hiring. The last time my airline was hiring, we had pilots hired at the age of 47, and that was when pilots had a mandatory retirement age of 60. We'll see if the airlines start hiring pilots over 50 with the increased retirement age. Generally airlines want to get a number of years out of their pilots after spending a sizable amount to train them on their aircraft.I should warn you about the pay and working conditions, especially at the regional airlines. The lower pay and the long days can be tough. But if this is really what you want to do, then there isn't much that's going to get in your way. To get an idea of the different requirements and what the corporate, regional, major and legacy carriers are paying, take a look at www.airlinepilotcentral.com. The site is very accurate and it might give you an idea if this is something you really want to do.
Good luck!
Kent
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Apr 12th 2008 @ 8:16PM
Kent Wien said...
My brother added a good tip:
Make sure you do a good background check on the school, talk to students already enrolled in that school and be VERY cautious about paying for everything up front. Consider an escrow account or smaller up front amounts...
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Apr 13th 2008 @ 12:54PM
Neil said...
Interesting and informative read Kent.
Just thought I'd add a link to a website I think could be useful: http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com
It has detailed information on airlines all over the world (155 in N. America alone), including pay, fleet, bases, whether they are hiring or not, minimums, and in some cases a breakdown of the individual interview process.
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Apr 13th 2008 @ 12:54PM
Neil said...
I should also add that PJN is updated very regularly.
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Apr 13th 2008 @ 2:13PM
Kent Wien said...
Thank you Jason for adding such a good tip. I completely forgot about the part 141 school requirement for the GI bill. Good info!
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Apr 13th 2008 @ 4:51PM
Max said...
Hi Kent, on a slightly different note, I'm currently working on my commercial rating and am not sure whether to pursue my CFI. I was thinking of trying to get a job as a diver driver for a while and was wondering if you or anyone else has flown for a 105 operation? Also wondering if not getting that CFI is going to hold me back in the long run? Thanks, and great blog!
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Apr 13th 2008 @ 8:06PM
Jason said...
If you are military and have GI Bill benefits available, you may be eligible to have up to 60% of pilot training paid for AFTER private pilot license is obtained (because MGIB is for *continuing* education). Remember, if you qualify for MBIG, it only works at a part 141 school (vs part 61) and it has to be APPROVED by the VA, so not all part 141 schools will take GI Bill benefits. If you already used up your MGIB then ignore my post.
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Apr 14th 2008 @ 8:15PM
Phil said...
Hey Kent! I obtained all of my ratings (in 7 months.) They have a fast paced as well as a self-paced program. same cost.), Private, Multi-engine, Instrument, Commercial ASEL and AMEL, MEI, CFI, CFII with ATP (Airline Transport Professionals). They have well over 20 locations across the U.S. (I attended the PHX location) When your training is complete you end up with about 290 Total time (including approx. 150 Multi) which is the best part. After you get your Instrument Rating you fly cross-country in a Piper seminole logging some great cross-country IFR. They have been around for over 20 yrs. So you don't have to worry about them closing doors. you also pay as you go. I believe it is now approximatley $62000. This is a fixed price which also is great. I think I have taken enough of your space up. They can be researched at atpflightschools.com They have 20 Diamond jets to be delivered in January 09.
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Apr 14th 2008 @ 8:17PM
Kent Wien said...
Thanks Phil for that tip! That sounds like a good way to go.
Apr 16th 2008 @ 1:22PM
Dan said...
I read an interesting article recently in the New York Times that really gets to the heart of the current entry-level pilot situation. I do not post this to discourage you, I am 30 and have always dreamed of becoming an airline pilot but based on articles and testimonies such as this, I would rather make it a hobby and not quit my day job. Good luck, the link to the article is below. Kent, I am addicted to your blog and I am living my pilot career vicariously through you. Your pictures and stories are treasures. Remember, when you go to work, in many of our eyes, you are living the dream. Keep up the great work!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/business/10pilots.html?_r=1&scp=29&sq=pilot&st=nyt&oref=slogin
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